Can perpetual motion ever be obtained using the repulsion of magnets?

I highly doubt it. There are several problems here. 1) You cannot violate the laws of physics (there is no process that is 100% efficient).

You will never be able to completely eliminate the affects of friction and entropy. 2) Magnets have a force that is constant. This means that they cannot induce a movement of material or electrons unless the magnet also moves.

This is similar to trying to use the force of gravity to create a perpetual motion device. Gravity is essentially constant as well and would require a change in strength to induce motion in an object. However, I do believe that its possible to build highly efficient machines that rely on things like solar energy to work.

One day you could built something that could run for year with no additional human input. However, it would eventually break down do to friction somewhere in the device or the natural processes of entropy. To add to your magnet theory, take a look at an electric motor.

There are plenty of magnets in it arranged in a circle. When electricity is applied to the coils, the shaft rotates. Its motion is continued because the coil that the electrons travel through is constantly changing.

A magnetic device like the image above would slow down down after it was started and eventually find an equilibrium point where it finally rests. There wouldn't be enough energy left in the system to carry on the motionPeople have tried to make a machine like this for years, but no one has every succeeded. And even if you could make a perpetual motion device, as soon as you tried to make it expend energy to do some work, it would shut off.

You can;t get more out of the system than you put into it.

CWanamaker, thanx for your response. It's hard to explain all the specifics of the design without a more detailed picture, but I'll try. When I refer to the magnets on the wheel they would be evenly spaced all the way around the wheel and oriented with a slight but identical angle.

The magnets on the outer ring would be close (for repulsion) and parallel at the end to the ends of the magnets on the wheel. Spacing would be along the circumference of the outer ring such that at opposite points on the ring would be a magnet (for balance). Then at key opposite points along the outer ring would be set up more magnets and so on to create the domino effect in that part way through the spin caused by repulsion would be another set to start the repulsion over and over along the ring.To counter the equilibrium problem a sheild would have to be arranged in such a way as to not negate the magnetic effect.

I know that there has been countless attempts at this over the centuries and the "Laws of Physics" are against me. However, I am an eternal optimist and feel that these LAWS ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN! On Wikipedia when they refer to the "Laws" and how they pertain to perpetual motion they continue with ..."successful perpetual motion devices are physically impossible in terms of our current understanding of the laws of physics".

Maybe the laws can be changed in the future!?!?!

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.