Do global warming deniers understand, that it can be snowing LIKE CRAZY where they live in temperate..?

I'm not sure. From the examples shown in the questions and answers in this section, there are more people now that I would describe as 'skeptics' and fewer that I would describe as 'deniers.' However, the ones I would still label as deniers seem more virulent, and my personal straw poll of questions, answers and participants indicates some new people (or at least new avatars and names) who are asking the same old questions and offering the same old tired responses. I'm not sure I would describe my reaction to some of the stuff posted here as jaw-dropping, but then I'm no scientist.

I just look at some of it and go oh geez...then shake my head and move on. So I'm not sure...there seem to be fewer deniers, but the ones in denial may be far more ostrich-like, perhaps unable to grasp the basics or refusing to address the real issues for one reason or another, hence rather than getting intelligent issues based dialogue and debate, you see all the references to 'leftists,' 'socialists' and all the other flotsam and jetsam of politically charged arguments without much-if any-substance to support them. In other words, the right wing playbook-not that the left is blameless by any means.

And I do think there is a sub group of people-primarily the 'newer' participants here-who are just obviously not up to speed on the subject of climate change or what issues have been laid to rest...so you get these ridiculously old, tired falsehoods brought up again and again. Perhaps the larger issue is your obviously growing frustration with the uneducated questions and responses, which I can understand given your level of participation here in this category and the way you have been targeted and attacked repeatedly as a result-which I have observed for the entire 2 1/2 years I've been here. For me, it's easy to just roll my eyes and ignore the obvious idiocy and find interesting points of discussion in some of the more denial-oriented questions and comments because climate change is not my area of expertise and I make no bones about that, so I'm usually not getting called names or getting targeted like you are constantly...it's like little kids at a swimming pool around here, running up to you and snapping you with a wet towel, and then when you snap back they run to the lifeguard crying and complaining.

And you're certainly not the only one that happens to here. I may get a number of thumbs-downs for that comment, but the towel-snappers generally seem to have a hard time with chicken and egg concepts. The point is, I can't stake any claim to being 100% objective or anything and I do agree that the remaining people in total denial here are getting more shrill, but overall I feel like the quality of the discussion here is improving, people are getting better educated about the issues and talking about them seriously more with less of the oh yeah well you're a communist is what you are type of waste of bandwidth commentary and more useful information on both sides of the issues.

Absolutely. The average denier has evolved the ability to foam in the mouth everytime you talk about climate. First, they will sing all the denial mantras in their little red book given to them by the oil funded think tanks.

Then they will go on an Al Gore bashing festival. It is their belief system. Under no circumstances, do not diss their belief system.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.

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