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I am asking because it seems like so many regulars are leaving angry. I personally do not have a problem and get along with people I do not agree with by avoiding them. Would closing down for a while give everyone breathing room to calm down and come back happier?
If your Gold would be a problem, Askville could maintain your Gold account. Asked by LouLou 44 months ago Similar questions: idea Askville close reopen rules Amazon > Askville.
Similar questions: idea Askville close reopen rules.
No I do not think Askville should close down for a while One can't close down a neighborhood just because some of the residents are unruly. One can't even close down a neighborhood just because one does not agree with the C Can R's (Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions) That would be for Askvillers ... The Rules. :-) The difference here is that we as members; even though for the most part we are upstanding citizens who contribute to the community, are not in a position to make the rules.As a community we can expect certain standards to be upheld, but we are powerless to do much about it when someone breaks rank.
When an unruly neighbor begins to throw stones, the best one can do is either duck, or move off to some other location. If a citizen truly desires to remain standing strong against the ill-intent of another, they can muster up a posse and confront the abuser. They can react in kind and throw stones back.
Or they can simply move off to a different corner and remember that retaliating generally has one draw back. It provides fuel for what might have simply been a smoldering ember. I don't want to go on ad nauseam about my own personal online experiences - which date back to very early 1991.
Yep ;-) What I will say is this. The type of behavior here in Askville is not at all uncommon. Back in the day we referred to them as "flame wars".
Someone would make some sort of offhand comment. Someone else would take it the wrong way and blasto. Or someone would share a differing opinion about a touchy subject and someone else would get their feelings hurt.
Before you knew it people and their armies were in all out battle. Planning strategies of how to get the goat of the "enemy". Or how to drive the enemy away.
Seriously - people actually did conspire with each other in private on how to launch an attack on another. Then they just sit back and laugh and make fun of the deed.An attack might have been aimed at one, or a group but the worst that happened is that invairably a whole bunch of INNOCENT bystanders got muddied. OMG I could tell some stories.
I tell you no one wins. People take these online communities quite seriously. Just look around at the friendships that are developed here.
This isn't as much of a "virtual world" as one might think when they first join up. There are real people here with real issues. There are real people here who are carrying so much baggage about stuff in their own private lives.
Some find this place a good place to "dump" it. Some people are so angry with the world that they need an outlet. A community like this provides it.
Some people are so paranoid (I know - an outdated 60's word) that they feel they MUST try to convince others that their opinion about clowns, construction workers, teeth whiteners, God, politics, ethics, etc.Etc. - is the only opinion worthy holding. And you are a fool if you don't.
The truth is - there is a LOT of fear that permeates this place. But that is true anywhere. Fear is humankind's own worst enemy.
Sometimes it's positive and can be the motivator to move on. Most of the time, it stops us in our tracks. Instead of considering a new idea, we hold to what we believe.
That's because for some people the energy it takes to keep an open mind is just not there.It's easier to attack than it is to think. But to close the place down. Unless it were a permanent closure it would make no difference whatsoever.
Even if every single current Askviller never returned. New and different folks would. And they would bring with them their "stuff".
Most of it will be good stuff. Some if won't be. It's just the way the world turns.
Sources: a whole lot of personal experience .
No it wouldn't. Askville is not anyone's special playground, and I doubt Askville is going to close their social networking site because some older members are frustrated - there will always be new ones coming along. Please understand this is *ASKVILLE BETA* by Amazon, and *THEY* are determining what the rules and boundaries are by what their needs are, as a corporation, and not by what the wants of the members are.
The site doesn't need to close down if people need some "breathing room" - they can take a haitus or vacation and come back if and when they are ready.
I don't think it's necessary to shut down Although I agree that some rule revamping is in order around here, Askville staffers can certainly implement the new rules overnight and start fresh with a welcoming blog post explaining changes. But shutting down? Nah.
If people are getting too hot under the collar and need a break, then they need to have the good sense to take a self-imposed break. Askville isn't our mommy who tells us when we need a timeout. Askville's our enabler - our crack dealer, if you will - that feeds us yummy hours of wasted life answering goofy questions and chatting ceaselessly.
If we're reacting badly to this "social crack", then it's up to us to take some personal responsibility for our own anxieties. As for the regulars who have left, I have an inkling that many will be back after a cooldown period (even if they don't believe so right now). And those who aren't coming back, it's largely (though not exclusively) because they're "over" this site.
For some people there's a limit to how much of a good thing they can take (egads! ). And the new rules are a good and convenient excuse to bow out today instead of tomorrow.
I wish them all the best and hope they come back to visit. But don't take away the crack from the people who still need it. PenguinSage's Recommendations How can I miss you if you won't go away?
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This is called evolution - watch it occur in real time :-) Askville is a microcosm of society, and this is how society works. The original generation (early members) like how "it was" and don't want things to change. A new generation rises up with different values and interests, and the old generation feels pushed and angry.
Anarchy reigns. Then at some point the new generation becomes the old generation, and the process repeats itself. This is no different from watching ants in an ant colony or bees in a hive.
Askville reflects the real world. (Now, if Amazon were smart, they would invite an anthropologist in to examine and analyze these processes and write a book on societal change) .
I don't think closing is the answer It seems like a lot of the problem stems from interpersonal conflicts, and frustration with the site itself. I don't think either of those would be well solved by shutting down and opening with different rules. The former really depends on everyone dealing with problems constructively, and the latter is a time-intensive process that the developers need to keep working on, and can't be solved overnight.
I think it's obvious that there are some personal problems developing among some groups. There are some tight-knit people, and some of them are butting heads. Sometimes it starts with bad behavior on the part of one person or group, but as a result of the dynamic here, it quickly picks up speed and can turn into a minor brawl.
Part of that is a result of the secondary problems with the site, and part of that is just human nature. I don't think new rules are the answer, because the same people will come back and start the same fights. New rules might stop some of the problems, but if people are really determined to stir up trouble, they'll find ways within the new rules, or they'll cause so much trouble that the admins won't have time to police them anyway.
I think one way to deal with the problems is at a grass roots level. Don't get involved in stupid fights, and avoid people you don't get along with. It's harder than it seems, but if we all keep trying to be good, and trying to avoid pointless conflict, I think we'll do away with a lot of the bad blood.
People who are only trolling for attention will get bored. People who are actually here to be here will realize that it's more fun to ask and answer questions than to fight over stupid things. The other possible solution is better website management.
If admins crack down harder on abusive behavior, people will have less to fight over. If more good questions and answers keep showing up, people will have more to do than just fight. If people feel that their gold is actually worth something, they will spend more time working on quality answers, instead of feeling that they're just wasting time and finding outlets for their frustration.
I'm sure those aren't the easiest things to accomplish, but it's good to have a goal :) .
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In your opinion, what rules (not existing) you would like to have in Askville, to keep it from being another Y! Answers?
According to Askville's FAQ's, it is against the rules to use mutiple Amazon accounts for Askville, BUT...
When does the new Askville rules go into effect someone said told me they go into effect soon. When?
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