Has the 'Occupy Movement' changed greedy capitalists into communists yet?

Proper 'communism' (not the stalinist pervesion of it) shouldn't be tyrannical. The cornerstone of it should be grassroots democratic control of all aspects of society. Not just ticking a box every 5 years as to who we want moderating the system, and not having a real say as to the real elites (bankers, bosses, investment capitalists etc) Remember what a Soviet was meant to be.

Soviet translates simply as council. What happened with the Russian revolution was you had workers, peasants, and soldiers setting up these councils to make democratic decisions about what they wanted in society. The problem was betwen the already underdeveloped nature of Russian society, combined with the decimation of the civil war, the working class which was tiny in russia to begin with, was a shadow of itself.

You can't have a society based upon the democratic control of society by the working class when you don't have a working class left. For a proper socialist society to take place you need to have it happen in a fully developed capitalist society, which has the productive ability to meet the society's needs. Russia did not have this.

It denegrated, and then you had the likes of Stalin rise to power and using the language of the revolution merely replace one elite with another. If there had been real and thriving democratic control from below, this would have been far more difficult for this to happen. The only war that has any place in socialist or communist thinking should be class war, where a people in choosing to control their own society resist attempts by the old order to regain power.

Take Spain in 1936 as an example of this where the ordinary people armed and organised themselves to resist Franco's attempt to restore the old order. They failed unfortunately. Spreading socialism through military invasion is a total bastardisation of anything Marx had invisaged.

Capitalism was a dramatic and positive step forward in the development of society. It throw off the restictive Feudal society, it got rid of an entrenched caste based class system. It released a huge amount of economic and intellectual energy, and created a dynamic and prosperous society.

Every single social order before capitalism was defined by scarcity, ie, society could not produce enough to meet every ones needs. The ruling elites role was to manage this scarcity. Capitalism on the other hand, one of the biggest problems is over-production, and that through over production and the chaos of the market it leads to boom and bust, and huge economic crisis, that devastate the lives of millions through things like unemployment.

Take war for example. In pre-capitalist times wars emerged when a ruler wanted to gain more land to produce more. The large Capitalist wars between major industial powers stem from a few different souces: 1) A quest for markets for the excess produce of your industrial production.

2) In times of economic crisis, with mass unemployment, nothing gets an economy rolling better in the short term than war. It deals with the issue of unemployment, it provides an outlet for industrial production producing war material etc. Some good quotes and references. James Connolly, Irish Socialist revolutionary “It would be well to realize that the talk of ‘humane methods of warfare’, of the ‘rules of civilized warfare’, and all such homage to the finer sentiments of the race are hypocritical and unreal, and only intended for the consumption of stay-at-homes.

There are no humane methods of warfare, there is no such thing as civilized warfare; all warfare is inhuman, all warfare is barbaric; the first blast of the bugles of war ever sounds for the time being the funeral knell of human progress… What lover of humanity can view with anything but horror the prospect of this ruthless destruction of human life. Yet this is war: war for which all the jingoes are howling, war to which all the hopes of the world are being sacrificed, war to which a mad ruling class would plunge a mad world.”? James Connolly 1914 Lenin 'Imperialism the highest stage of Capitalism' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism... Rosa Luxemburg, German Socialist revolutionary.

"Socialism or Barbarism" http://www.marxists.org/archive/luxembur... John Maclean Scottish Marxist during his trial for anti-war activities during WW1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maclea...

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.

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