How do we really know if harsher penaltys and fines ,really deter people from comitting a crime?

They can be rigged quite easily by people with power and want to obtain an agenda. Asked by Squeeky-changes-suck 2 months ago Similar questions: harsher penaltys fines deter people comitting crime Politics & Law > Crime.

Similar questions: harsher penaltys fines deter people comitting crime.

Good damn question. Of which I have no answer to.

You know I am not against the death penalty for Monsters such as Manson or Dalmer(us) or Olson or Bernardo(canada) but fry one innocent and you society are no better than the murderer. Squeeky-changes-suck 2 months ago .

Thanks for the reply. Squeeky-changes-suck 2 months ago .

It's a fallacy that those who believe in them want the rest to believe - once again a scam to control others. If you take psychology you'll know that most crimes are committed by those between 15 and 35 (after that you either learn or get too old to run from the cops) - these people think they are too smart to get caught and don't think they will get caught, so they do ot even consider the penalties until after they have been caught, and at that point they are not a deterrent. Long sentences, with no emphasis on education, training, therapy and rehabilitation, just result in institutionalization for the criminal, and pretty much guarantee when they get out, they will commit more crimes, because the deck is stacked against them.As for capital punishment, that has never been a deterrent - yes, it keeps the murderer from committing the crime again, but it doesn't keep them from happening - it just makes smarter and more dangerous and desperate criminals when it comes time to catch them.

Animal psychology is a perfect example of how the human mind and society work. Evolution (long and short term) happens when a niche is available - even if every criminal in the world were to die tomorrow, they would be replaced by others within a month, because that's human nature.

Thanks! Squeeky-changes-suck 2 months ago .

An ex-mayor of New York City, Ed Koch was fond of saying, "No, the death penalty doesn't deter crime, but it makes sure that that same guy doesn't do it again. " I think the death penalty should only be given to the criminal that is caught with the smoking gun. In other words, when there is absolutely no doubt that he did it.

However, once they have that sentence, it shouldn't take 20 years to execute them.

On September 11th, two gunmen attempted to kill me and rob my house. After the gunshot, which could attract attention, they fled the scene with my keys only as that's all I had of any value. If there were no cops in half an hour or so and I was dead, they'd start looting.

Attempted murder? No, the best I can hope for is Especially Aggravated Robbery -- and because of the confession (evidence is pretty cut and dry -- bullets, fingerprints, bullet casing, gun, etc) the Especially Aggravated Robbery will likely be bumped down a notch or two. He'll be walking the streets again in less than ten years.

The other guy was 17 and will be tried as a Juvenile so he'll soon be out with a pristine record in a year or so. Its too early to tell but I'll likely never have effective use of my right arm again. Had I died as they planned, they'd've never been caught.

All the discussions I had in the past couple of weeks concurred that there isn't enough deterrent.

25 years for attempted murder -- just because he planned to rob my house (actually my parents' house) after he killed me shouldn't reduce the sentence from attempted murder to especially aggravated robbery. If murder is proven by evidence -- such as the gun and bullet and fingerprints and items in possession, then that person should be put to death. You may disagree -- but I've seen that human life is so precious and irreplaceable thing that ONLY a life can pay for it -- the life of the one who takes the life of another merely to steal her or his posessions, money, to rape, or a quick fix or high or kicks.

Such a crime can and maybe should be forgiven, but the only one who can forgive the offender happens to be dead, and died horribly. The most serious (jailtime-inducing) offense my attackers incurred was not shooting me but owning a gun illegally -- the fact that he was on probation for armed robbery while he committed this crime are extra sentences but are usually served concurrently -- e.g. No extra time.In my case, my attackers should have been deterred by the knowledge that they'd spend a great part of their lives (25 for attempted murder, ten for illegal gun plus ten for doing it on parole) in prison f caught, and if I died as they intended/planned during the robbery, they might find themselves facing the irreversible dark iron abyss of death themselves. I was ready to go if it was my time.

My life as is may be drastically altered henceforth. I can no longer work my seasonal bookstore job, help the disabled, or as of yet use a computer keyboard efficiently or play musical instruments. But to them my life was worthless.

Even so, their life is a much greater loss and shouldn't've been worth the gamble.

For the most part, we don't because those inclined to do evil are inclined to do evil exactly because they have deceived themselves that they won't be caught. (When they are, they're very surprised. ) Fact is, fines and jail are all we have since the 8th Amendment to our Constitution prohibits apparently more effective things such as lopping off a hand (or neck.) One good piece of evidence against this idea working is that the United States has the highest percentage of its population in prison--about 1% or a little more.

Clearly, we're doing it wrong.

Well said sir. Thanks! Squeeky-changes-suck 2 months ago .

I think it works for some people. And some of the others NEVER learn! I like the "three strikes" rule for most major crimes of any sort: After the third time they put you to death.

But that's just me, ya know? .

Only to the extent that they prevent the offender from being in a position to repeat the crimes - which is sometimes the only effective method.

I'll buy that. Thanks for the reply TLW Squeeky-changes-suck 2 months ago .

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Thanks for the reply. Squeeky-changes-suck 54 months ago.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.