If this proves successful, do you think diabetic Jews, Muslims and people with other superstitious beliefs against pigs?

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_he_me... Asked by Schelli 29 months ago Similar questions: proves successful diabetic Jews Muslims people superstitious beliefs pigs Health > Conditions & Diseases.

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No, I do not. Let me answer this for Jews. I suspect the argument for Muslims isn’t terribly different.By the way, my answering this does not mean I accede to the view that these beliefs are superstitious in nature.

To a religious person, religious beliefs can be viewed as following God’s commandments. Going through a pre-batting ritual in baseball would be viewed as a comforting ritual, possibly emanating from superstitious beliefs. First of all, observant Jews respect the dietary laws in the Bible (Leviticus 11).

They do so for reasons of ritual purity and holiness. They constitute a subset of the 613 commandments of Jews by God that are to be found in the Torah, or first 5 books of the Bible.It has nothing to do with health or the fact that pigs wallow in mud or whatever. Some secular Jews adhere to this prohibition out of tradition, without really understanding why they are doing this.

The Bible permits eating land animals with fully cloven hooves AND which bring up their cud.It forbids eating land animals that do not have fully cloven hooves OR that do not bring up their cud. Mind you, this is based on ancient knowledge, not modern science. (Lev.11: 2-8).

Second, the Bible doesn’t say you cannot use products made from pigs...only, you cannot eat the pig. So pig skin shoes and belts and wallets and other products are not taboo. Third, and most importantly, in Judaism, saving a life always trumps the other commandments.

For example, observing the sabbath (Fri evening to Sa evening) is a major commandment. Work may not be done on the sabbath. Without getting into a digression, driving and riding in a car is viewed as a violation of the sabbath.

Observant Jews walk on the sabbath. Yet, if an observant Jew who lives far away from the synagogue and who has a heart condition wants to celebrate the coming of age of his grandson (bar mitzvah), he definitely would be permitted to ride--because it is a matter of life and death. I infer that if an observant Jew needed to eat pork to save his, or someone else’s life, he most certainly could and should do so.

Administering medicine made from pigs is not the same as eating pork. To me, there is no prohibition against taking medicines made from pigs. And, even if there were, if it were life saving (as opposed to cosmetically desirable), that would trump any prohibition against it.

Having said all this, there are, no doubt, many Jews (and I am sure Muslims) who do not understand the prohibition against eating pigs. They only know pigs are somehow "bad"..."dirty"..."repulsive". They become demonized.

Association with pigs is frowned upon. And, over time, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand why tradition cringes at the image of a pig. This is uninformed to my thinking, based on a lack of Jewish knowledge and understanding.

Of course, a modern Jew who values science needs to reconcile it with the beliefs of her/his religion, which predates modern science. Why Jews would have developed a prohibition against what has to be the best tasting meat on the planet baffles me sometimes. Some Jewish scholars feel that the prohibited land animals may constitute a higher level of animal as opposed to a lower, despised class of animal.

This might apply to the pig which is highly intelligent. But, I don’t know how well this theory holds up across the board. Others may reason that pigs were an association with (Ancient) Egypt, the place where the Israelites were enslaved.

Perhaps in making a break, the Israelites chose to forbid pork. Who knows? Maybe pigs were uncommon in the ancient Land of Israel, making its prohibition a minor issue?

Regardless, the prohibition against eating pigs is explicit in the Torah, which is the most sacred of Jewish sources. But, none of this should affect the receiving of medicines and treatments required to keep one alive. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the text from Leviticus for your convenience.

Don’t employ a modern sense of the word "unclean". The word teme’ah is closer to the meaning of "ritually impure". It has nothing to do with not being clean or washed in a contemporary sense.

If you want the Biblical Hebrew, go directly to the link below. http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9912 Vayikra - Leviticus - Chapter 11 Chapter 11 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To help you see the similarities within Islam, read the below passage. Please recognize that Shariah means Islamic Law, just like Halakhah means Jewish Law.In recent years, Shariah has been erroneously demonized because of the acts of fundamentalists who adhere to ancient texts literally; e.g. , with the public punishment of stoning.

These punishments are equally present in Jewish and Christian scriptural texts...only their fundamentalists have convenient reasons for not adhering to those laws, despite espousing to follow the letter of the law everywhere else. http://islam101.net/introductory-mainmenu-33/13-introductory/16-islam-the-easy-way.html "...according to the Shari’ah it is haram (or unlawful) to eat pork, if someone is on the brink of starvation and the only food available is this pork, then one can decide for oneself whether and when to consume this haram meat in order to survive, and thereby derogate from the standard. Of course, this does not make the pork halal or lawful, but neither will one be punished for committing a haram or prohibited act, so long as it is necessary for one’s essential well being as a Muslim.

" As you can see, the ethical principle behind this is very similar to that within Jewish Law, or Halakhah. I believe the explicit prohibition against pork stems from: al-Baqarah 2:173 http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/002.qmt.html "He has only forbidden you what dies of itself, and blood, and flesh of swine, and that over which any other (name) than (that of) Allah has been invoked; but whoever is driven to necessity, not desiring, nor exceeding the limit, no sin shall be upon him; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. " translated by M.H. Shakir 1.

And the Lord spoke to Moses and to Aaron, to say to them: 2. Speak to the children of Israel, saying: These are the creatures that you may eat among all the animals on earth: 3. Any animal that has a cloven hoof that is completely split into double hooves, and which brings up its cud that one you may eat.4.

But these you shall not eat among those that bring up the cud and those that have a cloven hoof: the camel, because it brings up its cud, but does not have a completely cloven hoof; it is unclean for you.5. And the hyrax, because it brings up its cud, but will not have a completely cloven hoof; it is unclean for you; 6. And the hare, because it brings up its cud, but does not have a completely cloven hoof; it is unclean for you; 7.

And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof that is completely split, but will not regurgitate its cud; it is unclean for you.8. You shall not eat of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you. Sources: Secular education combined with weekly Bible study; see links above .

One, that's not a fair question. Two, no, it won't have any effect on beliefs. Are you familiar with the Jehovahs (false) Witness who refuses blood transfusions and chooses death over "eating" blood?

It'd be the same thing. God sets many people up to be confronted with their beliefs that they've worked up on their own and lets them choose between dumping the self-made belief or dying. Guess how many choose death.

Conversely, many are also given beliefs from God and presented with the choice of keeping that which God gave them or dumping it to stay a live a short while longer, and they choose to honor the God who loves them. The trick, , is doing the research to know which is which. Want help?.

In This Subject The Holy Bible is my final Word on This Subject and its not mine but God's... In The Holy Bible The Lord gave us clean and unclean guidelines as to eating. The Lord tells us what is best for us. In John 14:15 "IF" You Love me then keep my commandments.In The book of Lev.

11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. 11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. Now Some will go at once to Acts 10 and misquote ONE verse making all meats clean but if one will "JUST READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER" They will find out that one verse they pull out of context is not taking about food at all.

The matter becomes one of Does God know more then you as to what He is talking about. The Lord says we are not to Eat or TOUCH that. Leave it alone another words.

God put those as garbage cans with legs, its as if God is saying, Child, don't eat the garbage can. Don't touch it when that animal is dead even. Before you say this is a Jewish law, I do not believe that a jews stomach works any different then mine or yours do you?

And that health law is for everyone not just for jews. I would suggest that if you go to amazingfacts.Org that you can get free bible lessons and learn about a Large amount of things that will give you wisdom unto salvation. We live in a open grave and Jesus Christ remains THE ONLY Way out.

God bless have A fantastic Forever. Sources: The Holy Bible .

1 Please don't tell diabetics that most insulin comes from pigs. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin .

Please don't tell diabetics that most insulin comes from pigs. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin.

2 I don't have enough expertise in kashrut and the laws of halal to be able to use an Answer slot authoritatively, but that's a very interesting question that you raise, Schelli -- i'm looking forward to hearing from someone knowledgeable about it.

I don't have enough expertise in kashrut and the laws of halal to be able to use an Answer slot authoritatively, but that's a very interesting question that you raise, Schelli -- i'm looking forward to hearing from someone knowledgeable about it.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.