Is OWS a reflection on the failure of the Democratic party to uphold the values of its constituents?

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Doubtful. OWS is more a reaction against the wealthy population (who are generally, but not entirely Republican) who have become the ruling class in the country. OWS is incoherently saying that the democratic ideals that they wish existed have been bastardized by the moneyed class.

If the Dems were organized, then yes. But one problem the Dems have is that (aside from Obama) there is no leader. Sure, there is Pelosi in the House and Reid in the Senate, but there is no message leader like teh Repo party has (Rience Priebus) .

Yes. And the Republicans too, of course. Both parties are in the pocket of the corporations.

That's one big "if', brother. They quack different things, but in the end, I don't really see a difference between the 2 parties. Democrats who run around with their hair on fire spouting paranoid malarkey about the nation becoming a theocracy are, in my opinion, every bit as nuts as so-called Republicans who see communists and socialists behind every tree.

Both parties were corrupted decades ago and have served only to keep the voters divided so their corporate masters could squeeze all the wealth out of this country.

I can agree with that. I think The Teapers have made a grievous error in allowing themselves to become identified with a party.

Perhaps, but it seems more of a feint designed to deflect attention from the true causes of our economic distress. Stanleybmanly 1 month ago .

Yeah and the antiwar demonstrations were a feint designed to deflect attention from the real problems of the time. I don't think so.

I think you miss my point. What I'm asking is "Is OWS doing the work which we should expect from the Democratic party? " stanleybmanly 1 month ago .

Democrats could be more fearless in the carrying forward of their ideals. I have become very upset that Obama has surrendered to so many Republican demands. As well, I am furious with the missed opportunities that Democrats just allow to waft by to reveal the fallacy and bullying the the Republican agenda.

However, voting Republican is hardly the cure for being angry that too many Republican policies have been honored this past few years. I will vote for Obama again. That being said, I'm sure the OWS haven't cared for the ferocity with which the Republicans have fought Obama's attempts at funding Main Street.

Seeking to suck valuable programs to help the unfortunate dry, as well as doing away with some altogether is not coming from the Democrats, its coming from the Repubilcans. A desire to do away with Medicare being only one of their attempts. Of course they fought the idea of Medicare from the start, warning it would be socialization and the ruination of our country.

Much the same garbage as they screech out concerning most of Obama's policies. The party that gave birth to the candidate who receives cheers from the audience at the mention of letting a man without insurance die in a hospital bed is not necessarily going to be popular with any person with a rational mind, or any person willing to suffer the hardship of camping out to express their deep frustration. So there is anger over Democratic policies that haven't been carried out, as well, there is anger over the Republican resistance of policies they voted a man in to pursue.

There is anger over the greed and criminal activities of both parties but one party in particular at least holds ideals of some support for those who are not the wealthy elite. That is the Democrats. Period.

Either way, the answer is not to vote Republican. One can only hope that the Democrats will see how their lackadaisical MO is costing them and this country.

It would seem so. Maybe the situation is futile. Perhaps the irony is that the very nature of politics poses the biggest resistance to that which is was designed to achieve.As time goes by, politics is what stands in the way of accomplishing anything this country truly needs.

The OWS signifies nothing. The Democratic party has no values, it only wants power. Max20:"Is the Tea Party a reflection on the failure of the Republican party to establish a Theocracy?"The Tea Party never wanted to establish a Theocracy.

Why do you lie? .

Max didn't lie, but simply asked a question to contrast my own. If anything, Max's question is put to demonstrate the fallacy of my reasoning by asking a question that's equally ridiculous. Stanleybmanly 1 month ago .

The Democratic Party leaders are often among the wealthiest of politicians.........and with some of them, if they are not among the top 10% of the top 1%, they are working to get there. I've wondered about the OWS people and their seeming faith in the Dems. A number of the original OWS people had laptops and iPads.

If they have those things and we can assume they can read writing and that some/many of them can read Excel spreadsheets, they will know they need to set up an OWH group: Occupy White House. Or to be decent and also legal, set up across the street from the WH in LaFayette Park. Or Occupy The Congress.

Either the Obama administration is much fonder of Wall Street than their statements would indicate, or there’s a reason for the huge donations by Wall Street to Obama, or the Obama administration and the Democrat leaders who passed their ‘financial regulation’ bill cannot understand the effects of their policies on the Wall Street bunch. Wall Street firms — independent companies and the securities-trading arms of banks — are doing even better than they were before. They earned more in the first 2 1/2 years of the Obama administration than they did during the eight years of the George W.

Bush administration, industry data show. The story from The Washington Post:“President Obama has called people who work on Wall Street “fat-cat bankers,” and his reelection campaign has sought to harness public frustration with Wall Street. Financial executives retort that the president’s pursuit of financial regulations is punitive and that new rules may be “holding us back.”But both sides face an inconvenient fact: During Obama’s tenure, Wall Street has roared back, even as the broader economy has struggled.

"Please go to this link to see the article and the bar graph showing the absolutely stunning increase in Wall Street profits - I cannot copy the graph (and if someone can copy it, please do so.....I'll try to copy your copy):http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/wall-streets-resurgent-prosperity-frustrates-its-claims-and-obamas/2011/10/25/gIQAKPIosM_story.html html.

No - that is not what I said. I might agree that some of the leadership of the Democratic Party has fooled its base. But in no way am I ready to label OWS as to its motivation.

I suspect some of the OWS folks are sincere........but I also suspect many of them may be puppets, not mindful of being manipulated.

No, it's a reflection on the success of the Republican party in preventing the Democrat party from upholding the values of its constituents.

So I think you win the cigar! I think the Republicans have successfully diverted the Democratic party from the service of its constituency by driving the dems to dine from the same trough as themselves. Stanleybmanly 1 month ago .

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.

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