For some reason, going into a Chinese restaurant and asking for Beijing Duck just doesn't have the same ring as Peking Duck. This seemed like a good time to ask this with the Olympics starting in a couple of days.NO WIKIPEDIA ANSWERS OR COPY/PASTE ANSWERS - HOW ABOUT DOING A LITTLE SOLID RESEARCH ON THE ANSWER FOR A CHANGE? Asked by OldppieHatesNewAV 41 months ago Similar questions: Chinese government change Peking Local > Asia.
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The name has changed for both political and linguistic reasons In 1928 with the Kuomintang government of the Republic of China the name was changed from Beijing (Peking) to Beiping (Peiping) the name change removed the element meaning "capital" (jing or king,) to reflect the fact the national capital had changed to Nanjing. Xxx The Communist Party of China reverted the name to Beijing (Peking) in 1949 again in part to emphasize that Beijing had returned to its role as China’s capital. During the 1950s and 1960s it was common in Taiwan for Beijing to be called Peiping to imply the illegitimacy of the PRC.
Today, almost all of Taiwan, including the ROC government, uses Beijing, although some maps of China from Taiwan still use the old name along with pre-1949 political boundaries xxx Pinyin, more formally Hanyu Pinyin, is the most common Standard Mandarin romanization system in use. In 1954, the Ministry of Education of the PRC assigned a Committee to reform the written language. This committee developed Hanyu Pinyin.
Pinyin superseded older romanization systems such as Wade-Giles. Pinyin was adopted in 1979 by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) as the standard romanization for modern Chinese. This is when most people in the west changed from Peking to Beijing xxx xxx http://en.Xikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing http://en.Xikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin names have been changed to protect the innocent ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ xxx Beijing, Peking, Peiping and all that xxx The current capital of China has three names that one is likely to encounter:?
,? , and?.? means "northern capital". It is the name by which the city has been known to its inhabitants and to most Chinese speakers for the past six hundred years.? means "northern peace".
This name was used by Chiang Kai-Shek’s Nationalist Party and its supporters because they denied the legitimacy of the Communist government and therefore did not recognize the city as the capital of China.It goes back to 1368 when native Chinese rule was re-established with the defeat of the Mongols by the Ming dynasty. Initially, the Ming capital was at? Nanjing "southern capital".
In 1421 the Ming capital was transferred to? , which was then renamed?. The Nationalists also had their capital at?
Until they lost the civil war to the Communists and moved their capital to? Tai Bei (usually spelled Taipei) in Taiwan.? means "Yan capital". It is an old name, reflecting the time when there was a Marquis of Yan.
It is no longer used as an ordinary name for the city, but, outside of China, has a literary, antiquarian flavor. Within China it isn’t normally used as the name of the city but it is frequently heard since it is the name of the country’s most popular beer. This is the name spelled Yenching and Yenjing in the Harvard-Yenching Institute and in the names of restaurants, such as the Yenching restaurant in Harvard Square.
... xxx One system for romanization of Chinese, the Wade-Giles system, is more accurate from a technical phonetic point of view and treats all Chinese stops and affricates as voiceless and using an apostrophe to indicate aspiration. In this system,? Is written Peiching and?
Is written Peip’ing. Peiping is what you get if you use the Wade-Giles system but drop the apostrophe. The other system for romanization of Chinese, which is now official in China, is the Pinyin system.
This system writes the stops and affricates in a way that is less technically accurate but more meaningful to English speakers. In Pinyin,? Is written Beijing and?
Is written Beiping. Folk transcriptions of Chinese by English speakers tend to be like Pinyin in this respect.Xxx xxx To summarize, the variation in the form of the name of the capital of China arises from three different sources: different underlying names different pronounciations in different dialects of Chinese different romanizations of the same pronounciation of the same name The combinations that you are likely to run into are the following: Beijing is what you get if you use the Pinyin romanization for the Mandarin pronounciation of the current official name. Peking is what you get if you use the old postal system romanization, which was based either on the pronounciation in a Southern dialect or an archaic pronounciation in Mandarin of the current official name.
Peip’ing is what you get if you use the Wade-Giles romanization of the Mandarin pronounciation of the Nationalist name. Peiping is what you get if you use the Wade-Giles romanization of the Mandarin pronounciation of the Nationalist name but drop the apostrophe. Beiping is what you get if you use the Pinyin romanization of the Mandarin pronounciation of the Nationalist name.
Yenching is what you get if you use the Wade-Giles romanization of the Mandarin pronounciation of the old literary name. Yenjing is what you get if you use a Pinyin-style folk romanization of the Mandarin pronounciation of the old literary name. This isn’t the true Pinyin romanization, which would be Yanjing.
I’ve never seen that outside of China except in scholarly contexts.It’s all very simple, really. Xxx xxx http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000583.html supergrover's Recommendations Mastering Pinyin in 3 Days Amazon List Price: $29.99 Chinese Romanization Self-Study Guide: Comparison of Yale and Pinyin Romanizations, Comparison of Pinyin and Wade-Giles Romanization (Pali language texts) Amazon List Price: $2.50 Used from: $7.90 .
It was always Beijing They didn't change the name from Peking to Beijing, we did. The term "Bei Jing"? Means, literally, "Northern Capital."
Oh, yes, there is a Southern Capital, too, Nanjing,?. We ignorant Westerners used to call it "Nanking. " Beijing has been called by that name in China for centuries, although the name has been changed, and changed back, a few times to reflect changes in its political status.In modern times, it has been called Beijing continuously since 1949, when Mao restored the capital there.
Under Jiang's ("Chiang Kai-Shek's") regime, the capital had been in Nanjing. Beijing was called "Beiping" at that time. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&;geocode=&q=China,+Beijing&sll=30.751278,104.765625&sspn=41.527043,100.898438&ie=UTF8&ll=39.987643,116.530609&spn=0.587123,1.576538&t=h&z=10 Rules of pronunciation in the English language state that place names are properly pronounced in the manner of the locals.
However, British/American chauvinism often gets in the way (Hungary, for example, ought to be called "Magyar," as it is by its citizens). It was always thus with anything Chinese; the word "Peking" is a mispronunciation - which should be blamed on French missionaries - that sorta stuck. There is no place in China called "Canton," either, although there is a city in the American Rust Belt by that name.
The proper pronunciation of the place once referred to thus is, in Pinyin, "Guang Dong. (?)" Although you'd be hard pressed to find a Guang Dong-ese restraurant.As to my "solid research" - I studied Chinese (Mandarin) as a foreign language in both high school and college. It isn't possible to study the language without learning some of the history.
I don't have much of an opportunity to speak it these days, but if I happened to awaken in Beijing one morning, I'd know enough to make myself understood by the locals. Sources: My Chinese language courses. Chinese characters from Babelfish.
The name never changed, just the spelling In 1949, the Chinese government adopted the pinyin transliteration method to write the name in the Latin alphabet. But they didn’t insist on its spelling until the 1980s. Both the old and new spellings are approximations of the Chinese sounds.. Same thing happened with Nanking, now spelled Nanjing; and Chunking, now spelled Chongqing.
Shanghai happens to be spelled the same in both systems .
1 From what I recall from my Mandarin classes many years ago, the Chinese have always called the city Beijing. Europeans and Americans developed a method of writing out what they thought the Chinese were saying in the Western alphabet and came up with Peking (I recall it as being the "Yale System"). Once Mao Tse Tung and his supporters gained power in China, they reverted to the preferred Chinese pronunciation as reflected in a more accurate spelling method.
Thus, as far as the Chinese are concerned, the name of the city has never changed, but the insistance on inaccurate pronunciation by Westerners has been stopped.
From what I recall from my Mandarin classes many years ago, the Chinese have always called the city Beijing. Europeans and Americans developed a method of writing out what they thought the Chinese were saying in the Western alphabet and came up with Peking (I recall it as being the "Yale System"). Once Mao Tse Tung and his supporters gained power in China, they reverted to the preferred Chinese pronunciation as reflected in a more accurate spelling method.
Thus, as far as the Chinese are concerned, the name of the city has never changed, but the insistance on inaccurate pronunciation by Westerners has been stopped.
OldppieHatesNewAV replied to post #1: 2 Sounds wholly logical to me - you should have taken up an Answer slot! .
Sounds wholly logical to me - you should have taken up an Answer slot!
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