While I think editing is an important feature, I think too many people submit a brief answer to be "first" and then add more details later on. I've also noticed people who edit their answer to include information submitted by other answers. I AM NOT ACCUSING YOU OF DOING THIS (Wanted that to be clear).
However, I have noticed this occurring. Editing, when designed, was supposed to be simply for making minor corrections. Now it has become a way to get your answer in early and then expand it.
I'll admit that I often submit an answer even though I am still researching. I do this when I think I have the answer and don't think I will find more information. Then, I discover I was wrong.
I usually try not to change my original answer, but add the new information beneath it.
It would really slow things down if people waited half an hour before responding to the person that last said something on the topic. - Question asked.... wait - Answer given... wait - Comment on answer... wait - Response to comment... wait Most of the time my edits are just corrections for typos that I missed, so unless people are commenting to complain about my spelling, there's not much to be gained by knowing that I'm editting!
I can't imagine reading an answer and then waiting half an hour and coming back to it to comment. I agree with the unfortunate side of editing. I usually answer with a number of edits because I don't want to lose my work and do it in pieces.It's a lot better than not being able to edit, avoiding inappropriate comments is rather minor.
If I was really getting paid to answer I'd probably work in an off line worktool, but I'm not so it's spur of the moment.
I think there should be an identification of added/edited information... like the comments. Just a running tally of edits below the original question that can only be made by the question-asker. I don't think you'd be able to add a way to identify when the asker is making edits.
Edits happen... that'd just be part of the game. I'd like a BIG comment when submitting a question that says "ARE YOU SURE YOU'VE MADE IT CLEAR WHAT YOU ARE ASKING? (-100 points if people think you are unclear)" Oh... and an additional message "HAS THIS QUESTION ALREADY BEEN ASKED?(-500 points if question has already been asked)" (and -1000 if your name is Darcy) How about THAT?
Personally, I usually compose my answers in a text editor and then copy-and-paste it into the textarea here. Sometimes, I'll go back into the question when I notice a grammar mistake. Sadly, that's quite often but it doesn't change my answer.
I think that once you answer a question, it's answered and available for the world to judge. For good or bad, almost real-time answers are one of the best things about Mahalo Answers.
I don't think it would be very useful feature, although I do edit my answers regularly. The edits, however, are mainly concerned with grammar & clarity of style, and my final answer remains essentially the same as the initial one. Having said that, there is a very simple way around the problem described by easyboy: the "Reply" button could be disabled for an hour, following the posting of an answer.
Easy for Mahalo to implement, no AI required.
I get interrupted frequently when I'm answering, since I've got three kids at home. A lot of times I'll put up what I think is my answer; get interrupted; have a brainstorm and come back and add some more. Or sometimes the interruption occurs right before I was going to add a source.
Either way, it would be nice for others to be able to see it's being edited. I know that in Google Chat, the person on the other end can tell when you're typing. Something similar would be great here.
I think that easyeboy is right, but thirty minutes is too long. How about Mahalo waiting fifteen minutes before posting the question? That would give those of us with poor eyesight time to read over what we wrote and edit it.
I don't agree with this. Giving incomplete answers. For some basic questions most are voted on the basis of " first answered gets the best answer".
These question's answer can be found in Wikipedia. If You want to be the first You can just type the first line and then later edit. Unless the one who asks the question or somebody comments ,otherwise the answerer can escape.
Now no comments for first 30 minutes will lead some people using the system to their own benefit. If one finds the right answer or know the right answer then one should write it completely. Otherwise several ways of manipulation can happen....!
No, I think that would slow the site down and maybe aggravate users because they lose the ability to comment on answers asap. If somebody reads an answer they should have the ability to comment on it. I know I've seen people answering my questions, they will literally type anything and hit submit just so that their answer can be first then they will spend the next hour editing it into the good complete answer.
Although I appreciate good answers I think it's a sad way of gaming when you submit a bad answer just so you can have your answer listed first. I've been one of the commentators who has commented on an answer that had been later edited. It's not the commentators fault, it's the answerer for submitting an incomplete answer.So, for now, I think this is a non-issue, if anything I think something could be added to an answer to indicate that it was edited after the original submission.
We could eliminate the gaming by changing the Time to its last edited time, meaning users can't "camp out" in the coveted 1st answer slot, if they edit and somebody else has submitted an answer in the meantime that one rises above it. Interesting discussion non-the-less.
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I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.