Collective bargaining rights for public employees?

ALL employees, public or not should have collective bargaining rights. Why should people surrender their rights simply because they are public employees?

Of course I support it. But there go the damned republicans again, trying to make sure they put all the money in their own pockets. Greedy bastards!

I come from a long line of Union members steel workers , auto workers , law enforcement and teachers , so yes I do . However I also believe that this should not be a burden to those who pay and employ these Public employees The Tax Payer . I don't see this as an assault on unions I see their resistance to make concessions as an assault on the Tax Payer .....their employer .

Everyone is going to have to make concessions and that includes public employees. For example why should teachers ( and I have three in my family ) have fully funded insurance plans when the private sector employee contributes to their insurance premium , retirement fund some without an employee match , have loss retirement funds , pensions , vacation time , sick days and have also taken a pay cut . The newly elected Governor of WI was elected on a platform to balance the budget and now that he is trying to make good on a promise ( which is rare in government today ) some people are now saying oh I didn't mean ME , well it doesn't work that way .

In our own homes are there 1 or 2 family members that are exempt from making concessions in the family budget? I would think not . I am in no way promoting balancing the budget solely on the backs of those in the education field or any other public employee however they also should not be exempt from the process .

In a recent poll the citizens of WI want and need tax relief . Without concessions how is this possible , who is going to fund the public employee packages? The American tax payer who is in financial crisis themselves?

I also in no way are excusing the government officials that have made poor choices and decisions they have had a hand in this financial crisis and need to make concessions as well . Both sides of the isle my friends are responsible for the financial crisis as well as the crisis of the American Worker . Both sides are guilty of promoting , aiding and voting to remove millions of jobs out of the US .

I expect all to make concessions right along with me including government officials , union members and non union members alike . In my opinion the process to balance budgets , hold taxes down and put America back to work can only start and suceed when ALL start making concessions just like in every household budget .

The teachers are having a real hard time selling their case. All they can come up with is they are entitled and shouldn? T have to feel any of the pain the rest of us are.

How outlandish for the state to want to force the teachers to pay 12% of their healthcare, even though their union probably got an Obama waiver on Obamacare! For supposedly educated persons, these union idiots are really DUMB. Fired=no unemployment checks,there are plenty of students that would LOVE to have a GREAT job like theirs.

And encouraging kids to get involved is insane. They don? T even understand what is TRULY going on!

And don? T think they? Re not being brainwashed by these teachers they look up to.

What great role models, calling in fake sick. Unions went from protecting workers from abuse to being machines of greed- the top dogs are getting fat off the workers too. Look at GM and Ford, they are struggling and the unions still screw with them- keep it up and there will be no GM or Ford.

I am all for fair pay but not what often happens. I know a lot of union workers that hate the majority of the aspects of a union not the least of which is the protection of the lazy. I got in trouble once as a trucj driver at UPS because I helped a loader load a vehicle- he asked and I wasnt doing anything but getting paid to stand there- that is BS and it happens all the time.

No, I don't think so that public employees should Bargain their rights, every public employee have their own rights and they must defend it, no body can violate their rights #mce_temp_url.

I support collective bargaining rights. I find the conservative republican party of family values-aka-the tea party doing what they do best, saying one thing and doing another. The gov.

Of Wisconsin manufactured this deficit, then used what he manufactured to claim a budget deficit that needs to be addressed in a systemic manner. Hence he decided to claim the unions were the cause for the systemic deficit and they need to reduce their salary requirements to help the state. He went further and claimed that the collective bargaining right is a systemic problem that inhibits budgetary requirements and wants to eliminate them from the rights of the American people.

Sounds alot like Weapons of Mass destruction as the reason we should go to war. Let us get real, the Wisconsin conservative republican party member, now Gov. Is liar and a thief.

He takes no contractual responsibility for his actions or the actions of the government he now represents. Republicans eat their own. In addition, he exempts the police and fire depts from this legislation on the basis of Public safety.

If he remembered the republican hero, Ronald Reagan, President Reagan had a similar problem. He solved it by firing all the aircraft controllers who went on strike. So, the Gov.

Can include police and fire and simply add a no strike clause if it is not already there and preserve public safety and make his argument hold more of that dirty water republicans love to feed us when evern they are not pissing on our heads and telling us it is raining. I hope the dems stay gone and leave the gov without a governable state. The bruce.

As a former public employee (police Officer) who left the public sector and entered the Private sector I definately have an opinion on this. In addition I am also a former union organizer, Local Union busuness representative, officer of a large AF of L-CIO Labor organization (Union), executive board member of two AF of L-CIO Centeral Labor Councils, and executive board member of a multi state labor organization. I do not support the idea that public employees should participate in the collective bargaining process as that process exists in the private sector.

I do however believe that public employees should enjoy a grievance procedure that includes binding arbitration where disciplinary actions are concerned. I also very firmly believe that public employees should NEVER have the right to strike or in any way participate in a "labor disruption, or work stoppage". As a public servent I always considered myself and employee of the people who I served.

I considered the people who they elected to office as being their representatives, and understood that when one "serves" they make sacrifices". I understood that public service offered me a greater degree of job security, and that the only source of income for my employer was taxpayer money. So, I recognized that I was not in a business for profit organization, and was prepared to not enjoy equal or greater benefits than people working in the private (for profit) sector.

I felt that if I had a problem with the town that I work for my options were to either bring it to the attention of the citizens or terminate my employment relationship if I did not like what the job offered. I chose to leave public service and go for the money. That was over 30 years ago, long before public employee unions took root.It was also a time when people entered public service for job security or to serve the public.

Today I view most public employees (especially here in California) as spoiled children lead by irresponsible, often corrupt. And very socialist labor organizations like the SEIU, and AFSCME who by their political action committee dollars have corrupted the very people who we elect from the State House to the White House. On the other side of that issue coporations do the same thing.

We need to reform our election contribution system. It appears that for the most part only the rich can run for public office. Show me a poor Senator or Congressional Rep.

And I'll show you a new comer to the political process.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.