How surprising is it that the Netherlands advanced to the final game in the World Cup?

The Dutch are often referred to as "the best team never to win the World Cup" (just listen to an ESPN broadcast of one of their games), so I don't think it is a complete shock. They are a solid team and have been for a while. On top of that, the Netherlands was riding a 19 game unbeaten streak (now 25) into the World Cup and playing really well as a team.So going in, it did look like they had the pieces in place to put together a nice run.

They also got a pretty significant advantage with the brackets - having Brazil as the only significant competition to get to the finals (while Argentina, Spain, Portugal and Germany were all on the other side of the draw). No doubt, it has been a very good run for the Dutch team and maybe they aren't as talked about as some of the other teams, so that may be why it feels a little bit like a surprise. I even picked them to make the finals in response to another question - pay no attention to the Argentina pick on the other side of the draw :).

Holland are at any given time usually one of the top ten strongest nations in the world. In a knock-out competition it is not surprising that any top 10 side reaches the final from time to time. If anything it is more surprising that a few top teams get to the final so very often, and other top ten sides like Holland, Spain and England only do it rarely.

Want some simple math? There are three knock-out rounds to get through in order to reach a final. If a team B has an 80% chance of winning each one of those games, it still has only an 80%-cubed (i.e..8 * .8 * .8) chance, which is only 51%.

Is there any team B which is 80% likely to win against opponents that have all, by definition, reached the last 16 of the world cup? Probably not. By the same math, if a team is an underdog in each game but has 40% chance to win each one, it still has a 6.4% chance to reach the final.6.4% doesn't sound much, but it means that such a team would get to the final once in every 15 attempts.

Now in reality, things are more complicated. As we see with Holland, the luck of the draw can mean a much easier or harder route to the final. Holland needed to beat Slovakia, Brazil and Uruguay.

They would have been strong favorites against Slovakia, underdogs against Brazil, and slight favorites against Uruguay. The likelihood of Holland winning all three might be something like 70% * 30% % 60%. = 12.6%.

If Holland consistently faced a route like that to the final,. They'd be expected to reach it about once in every 8 attempts, or in World Cup terms, about once 32 years. And in fact, as luck would have it, the last time they reached the final was actually in 1978.

:) Isn't math a wonderful thing. :D.

When the WC 2010 started, @philipy asked a question about predictions. Before the first game. I answered that Spain will be the winner of this WC, and as far as I can see I’m still ‘’in the game’’ with that prediction.

I was amazed that Netherlands made it so far, and this team, also called “the mechanical orange” in Europe showed what they are capable to do on the field. I like the way they play, but I also noticed that after they score the first goal, they are vulnerable. But without Van der Saar, Netherlands, can't stop Spain.

So, at this point, with only few days before the final game, I know for sure that Spain will drink some orange juice Sunday! :))) Regarding the other teams you mentioned: France – Had a team, they needed a coach! England – Had Rooney, they needed 10 more players!

Italy – Oooo…Italy had a problem with the ball! Buffon was very upset! Because of that ball, they lost!

Brazil – Had a good team. Unfortunately because of the vuvuzelas, they lost concentration. I just want to say, that the only math you need to know in order to find out which team is the best is the “money math”.670 million Euros!

That’s what you saw last night against Germany. A team that has 11 stars on the field.

It is not really surprising for the Netherlands to advance to the final of World Cup, in the sense that both the Dutch and the Spaniards, were considered top contenders before the start of the competitions. What is most surprising is Spain's first ever finals appearance in the World Cup taking into account the obstacles they have overcome before reaching the head on collision with the Netherlands. As far as Netherlands is concerned, their greatest asset would be their offensive moves and still it would still be anybody's game, but each team should make an effort to control the game and score some goals."The deciding factor in this game may be who holds up strongest in the back.

If Spain can duplicate the effort they had in the back against Germany, they will be hosting the trophy. But, this will be a tall task indeed.

I am not surprised that the Netherlands made it t the final game of the world cup; I actually had them in my list of the five best teams, next to Germany and Spain. The Netherlands have played an impressive game from the start of the 2010 world cup. They even stated showing signs of being one of the finalists from the inception of the game.

Starting with a 100% win at the friendly matches (preparatory matches) and also a 100% win their group matches against Cameroon, Denmark and Japan in Group E of the World Cup. It is obvious that this Dutch team has their shoes well buckled and is very prepared even though lots of people said that they did not have the best of their team in the group.

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The Dutch are on a hot streak to end all hot streaks, or it will be if it concludes with a World Cup championship to take back to The Netherlands. I have been involved in competitive sports all my life and the teams that get hot, or play their best ball, or peak, at just the right time, have an advantage, Not only that, winning breeds winning. John Wooden (different sport I know) said that you always learn more by winning than by losing.

The Dutch have been learning a lot, winning their last twenty-five matches. Very nice streak. Having said that, anytime a team that is solid but not normally in the elite three or four suddenly shows up, like the Dutch, it does the rest of the competition well to ask if they have changed something, are they doing something different?

The answer is yes. The Dutch have refined their "total football" attack, taking up a 4-2-1-3 formation that allows four attackers more freedom.In addition, the team has exhibited more unity, less infighting...winning will do that. And let's talk about fan support.

Actually, there's no need to talk about it, everyone has seen it. Simply the best. Look for the Dutch to win over Spain, and then look for writers to pen "how could this happen" and "what an upset".

Go Orange.

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The 2010 FIFA World Cup Final was a football match that took place on 11 July 2010 at Soccer City in Johannesburg, South Africa, to determine the winner of the 2010 FIFA World Cup. Spain defeated the Netherlands 1–0 with a goal from Andrés Iniesta four minutes from the end of extra time. English referee Howard Webb was selected to officiate the match, which was marked by an unusually high number of yellow cards.

Both the Netherlands and Spain were attempting to win their first FIFA World Cup. The Netherlands had been beaten in the final in 1974 and 1978, while Spain's best performance had been fourth place in 1950. It was the second consecutive all-European final, and marked the first time a European team has won the trophy outside Europe.

Prior to this game, the Netherlands and Spain had never met each other in the main tournament stages of either a World Cup or a European Championship, the two major tournaments for European international teams. In all-time head-to-head results, the teams had met nine times previously since 1920, winning four games each and drawing once, in either friendlies, European Championship qualifying games, and once in the 1920 Summer Olympics. It was the first time since the 1978 final that neither of the finalists had previously won the World Cup.

The Netherlands were runners-up twice before, losing 2–1 to West Germany in 1974, and 3–1 (after extra time) to Argentina in 1978. Reaching the 2010 final was Spain's best performance in the World Cup, having previously finished fourth in 1950 when the tournament had a round-robin final stage, and the quarter-finals stage in 1934, 1986, 1994 and 2002, when single elimination knock-out stages featured. Spain became the 12th different country to play in a World Cup Final, and first new team since France in 1998.

The Netherlands played in its third final without a win, surpassing the record it had shared with Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Overall, Germany leads with four final losses. It was the first World Cup final not to feature at least one of Brazil, Italy, Germany or Argentina.

Spain became just the eighth country to win the World Cup, joining England and France as nations who have won it just once. Before the match Spain had an Elo rating of 2111 points and the Netherlands a rating of 2100 points. Thus, the finalists combined for 4211 points, the highest for any international football match ever played, beating the previous record of 4161 combined points for the 1954 FIFA World Cup Final between Hungary and West Germany.

Spain entered the 2010 World Cup as the reigning UEFA European Football Champions, having won UEFA Euro 2008, and as the shared holders of the international football record of consecutive unbeaten games for a national team, spanning 35 matches from 2007 to 2009; they also won all 10 matches of their qualifying campaign. The Netherlands entered the World Cup having won all eight matches in their UEFA Group 9 qualifying campaign. Once at the finals in South Africa, the Netherlands reached the knockout stage as winners of Group E, with three wins out of three against Denmark, Japan and Cameroon, conceding only one goal.

In the knockout stage, they beat World Cup debutants Slovakia, five-time champions Brazil and two-time champions Uruguay. The Netherlands reached the Final in a 25-match unbeaten streak since 11 July 2010. In Group H, Spain recovered from a loss to Switzerland in their opening game to beat Honduras and then Chile, finishing top of the group ahead of Chile on goal difference.

In the knockout stage, they then beat their Iberian neighbours Portugal, quarter-final debutants Paraguay and three-time World Cup winners Germany. The semi-final was a repeat of the match up for the UEFA Euro 2008 Final, and again saw Spain beat Germany, who were the top scorers of the 2010 tournament up to that point. In the six games both teams played in South Africa to reach the final, the Netherlands scored a total of twelve goals and conceded five, while Spain scored seven and conceded two.

Going into the final, Wesley Sneijder of the Netherlands and David Villa of Spain were tied as the top scorers with five goals each; Arjen Robben of the Netherlands with two was the only other player in the finalists' squads with more than one goal in the tournament. The match ball for the 2010 FIFA World Cup Final, revealed on 11 July3 2010, was the Jo'bulani, a gold version of the Adidas Jabulani ball used for every other match in the tournament. 4 The name of the ball is a reference to "Jo'burg", a common nickname for Johannesburg, the match venue.

4 The gold colouring of the ball mirrors the colour of the FIFA World Cup Trophy and also echoes another of Johannesburg's nicknames: "the City of Gold". 4 The Jo'bulani is the second ball to be specifically produced for the FIFA World Cup Final, after the Teamgeist Berlin was used for the 2006 final. At the time of the final, all but three members of the Spanish squad played for clubs in Spain; the other three were based in England.

The Netherlands squad drew its players from clubs in five European countries, with just nine based in the Netherlands; six played in Germany, five in England, two in Italy and one in Spain. The referee for the final was Howard Webb, representing The Football Association of England. 1 He was assisted by fellow Englishmen Darren Cann and Mike Mullarkey.

Webb was the first Englishman to referee a World Cup final since Jack Taylor officiated the 1974 final between the Netherlands and West Germany. A police officer from Rotherham, South Yorkshire, 38-year-old Webb is one of the English Select Group Referees, and has officiated Premier League matches since 2003. He was appointed to the FIFA list of international match referees in 2005, and before the World Cup, he had taken charge of the 2010 UEFA Champions League Final and the 2009 FA Cup Final.

At the 2010 World Cup, Webb refereed three games, all with Cann and Mullarkey as his assistants. In the group stage, he refereed the Spain–Switzerland and Slovakia–Italy games, and then took charge of the Brazil–Chile match in the Round of 16. 1 In those three games, he never showed a red card or awarded a penalty, but he did issue the second highest number of yellow cards in the tournament, an average of 11 July9 bookings per game.

With fourteen yellow cards in the final (one red card to John Heitinga – twice yellow), he easily broke the previous record of six for most cards in a World Cup final, set in 1986. Nine of these Final yellow cards came in the first 90 minutes. 5 Webb's total of 31 yellow cards throughout the tournament came to an average of 11 July3 per game.

The final was played on 11 July 2010 at Soccer City, Johannesburg. Spain defeated the Netherlands 1–0, after an extra time goal by Andrés Iniesta. 6 The win gave Spain its first World Cup title.

7 It was the first time since England in 1966 that the winners of the final wore their second-choice strip. The match had the most yellow cards awarded in a World Cup final, more than doubling the previous record for a final, set when Argentina and West Germany shared six cards in 1986. 8 Fourteen yellow cards were awarded (nine of which to the Netherlands),8 and John Heitinga of the Netherlands was sent off for a second yellow.

One yellow card was for Nigel de Jong's studs-up kick to the chest of Xabi Alonso during the first half, for which Rob Hughes of the New York Times, among others, believed the referee should have given a red card. The Netherlands had several chances to score, most notably in the 60th minute when Arjen Robben was released by Wesley Sneijder putting him one-on-one with Spain's goalkeeper Iker Casillas, but Casillas pushed the shot wide with an outstretched leg. Meanwhile, for Spain, Sergio Ramos missed a free header from a corner kick when he was unmarked.

10 Dutch captain Giovanni van Bronckhorst was substituted in the 105th minute by Edson Braafheid; Real Madrid midfielder Rafael van der Vaart, who had come on as a substitute in the 99th minute for Nigel de Jong, took over as captain for the last 15 minutes.

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