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I don't mind helping with homework questions. If somebody comes with "Here is the problem, here's how far I got on it, and here's where I got stuck", I'm happy to provide a pointer forward. It seems an excellent use of this site.
I do mind when people just type in the question, obviously directly off the page, with no indication that they've given it any thought. Sometimes I'll write a sentence or two to point them in the right direction, but not put any work into it since 99% of the time they won't reply. I have no idea if they've even read it, and suspect they haven't.It does seem rude of them to ask a question like that without having looked at the site long enough to know what sorts of things we do here.
It would also be nice if there were a good way to get first-time askers to be informed of such things. It would also be nice if there were something to pester them to acknowledge assistance even if they never come back to the site.
PaPerdue...THAT is a good idea. Since I'm in College at my age (49, until 7/5) I see it all the time. These kids no WHERE to find information (99.99% of the time, the INTERNET), but they don't KNOW any information.
One prof here said she thought it was just a different KIND of learning, but I don't think so. I think it's intellectual lassitude...they're damned lazy, and instead of doing things like actually "LEARNING SOMETHING", they just say, I know where to get it when I need it...which is NOT the same thing! As I said, from now on, they get the same response: "DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK."
MarkAntony 10 months ago .
I think everybody is pretty lazy, especially when something seems pointless. A lot of the homework does seem pointless, and to be blunt, a lot of it IS pointless. Much of the time, it takes me no more effort to punch out a simple hint than it does to say "do your own homework".
If I'm lucky, they'll even respond to the hint and we'll be able to work on the problem. If I'm not, which is 99% of the time, it didn't cost me all that much. Congratulations on your impending degree.
College is a very different experience once you've been out in the world a while.
The manifest matter might SEEM pointless, but the latent stuff is what REALLY counts. Getting up in the morning, coming to class on time, LEARNING to seek out information in books, putting it all into some coherent form of communication: these things are NOT pointless...but they ACT as if none of it matters...and it aggravates and scares the hell out of me. MarkAntony 10 months ago .
Now I feel like breaking out into "Kids...what's the matter with kids today" from Bye bye Birdie! Have a good one. MarkAntony 10 months ago .
We all are,but it's not going to stop anytime soon,if these slackers think someone will do their homework for them they will let them.
Squeek, thanks much. I feel the SAME way. Who doesn't like being helpful?
But, these kids are just damned lazy. I won't answer one of their questions. Like the one, "What's the angle, story-line and point of attack blah-blah-blah, of that Gene Tierney/Dana Andrews movie"?
I mean come on...JEEZUS! Why didn't he/she just give us the name of teacher, and we could have typed up the composition for her/him, and emailed it. From now on, they get NO INFO from me.
Take care... MarkAntony 10 months ago .
U 2. (I reply this way as a joke...and also as a valentine to my Creative Writing teacher in ) Have a good one yourself! MarkAntony 10 months ago .
Asking for help is one thing. There are a lot of really smart people here who are willing to help a kid understand how to do thier homework. It's the kids who come here and expect us to do it for them that burn my biscuits.
These kids eventually get jobs, and I really don't like the idea of someone too lazy to do their own homework being in charge of anythnig - even fixing my fries, which is all they are going to be able to do.
Man oh MAN are you right on the money! MarkAntony 10 months ago .
They are not going to learn if it's done for them. They are looking for an easy way out so they can get back to their computer games. There are a lot of resources now than when I was in school(I'm 68 & proud of it) I had to go to the library, take out books, be responsible & take them back.My parents would offer to help if I was really stuck.
This is just my opinion. Maybe I'm old fashioned. Hugs .
Yeah, and the problem is, I see too many times here on AV where people are indeed doing their hoomeowrk for them.
Geez, I need someone to help me! Hoomewrk=homework .
Well...from now on, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE THE ADULTS...the ones who have ALREADY done (or are doing) this work for ourselves, I say...NO MORE. From now on, every time I see one of these questions, I'm posting the same thing: "DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK! "Thanks MarkAntony 10 months ago .
I agree and most of us do say that or we just ignore, however there are a few who continually do their homework for them.
Right on the moneny! I'd never turn away someone who (as PamPerdue put it) has done a lot of the work, but just can't seem to "get it," but I will NOT help these kids who post the ENTIRE question, and who obviously haven't done a darned thing themselves. It adds to what is already an intellectually lazy person...and there's waaayyy too much of that already (and yes, I include myself...).
MarkAntony 10 months ago .
Nope. As one who used to work in education, I know how often teachers will give the poor kid something to do that the child has no idea how to do. I see many of these questions as amounting to, "How do I start?"
Very few are looking to cheat by having others do it for them. Think about the mechanics of that: the time involved doesn't get a sufficient pay-off. These children would have 20-100 different problems and we see one, maybe five.
They aren't cheating; they're trying to get what the teacher should have given them but didn't.
I didn't say they were cheating, but when I see questions like, "What's the point of attack, meaning...blah, blah blah" there's nothing going on there but someone who didn't want to put any time and effort into coming up with some meaningful answers. If the teacher's are giving kids something they don't know how to do..what's going on with the teachers. I see here at Rugers first-hand how teachers accept work that I'd throw back at a student in a heart-beat with the words, "Write this in English."
It's pathetic. Then I come on here to have some interesting conversation, discussion, and questions and answers (and yes...some goofy answers that I give)...and I see kids typing questions verbatim from some handout. It's ridiculous.
I'm NOT saying that the teachers aren't doing what you say...on that issue, I DO take the teachers to taks, but what I'm saying is the sea-change I've seen, and how it's KNOWN by teachers, that the kids now know WHERE to get the information, they just don't want to WORK at remembering it, or putting it into some logical whole in their own minds. MarkAntony 10 months ago .
" Their administrators have them teaching all kinds of malarkey. I've attended inservices that praised the "affective" (feelings, beliefs) education OVER COGNITIVE (actual knowledge.) So basically, we have administrators who think brainwashing our children is more important than the children actually learning (and practicing) how to write, add, multiply . .
. Critically discern valid from useless information. Our children don't learn those skills but by accident (or more commonly, from parents.
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There's a book by Walter Bowart called "Operation Mind Control," and another by Jim Keith, "World Control, Mind Control," which lists, among many other problems, some of the problems with education. When I mention names like Daniel Coit Gilman to most educators, they give me a blank stare. While the teaching profession per se was not the focus of this question, I think it's as much (if not MUCH more) the fault of the administrators than the teachers themselves.
Schools are such hierarchies of egos, and control that teachers don't have much leeway over what they're actually teaching anymore. What I'm aggravated about are kids that just post these quesitons, and want to sit on their a**es and do nothing. Then again, to piggy back on what you said, what ever happened to phonics, and diagramming sentences and such?
Ah well, my horse and buggy await. MarkAntony 10 months ago .
It actually doesn't bother me at all. I look at it like this, if they are coming on a random site with strangers to ask for help, maybe they really need it and have no one else to help them.
To each his own, but I'll de damned if I'm gonna answer someone's questions when they've obviously done no work themselves. To me, all that does is support their intellectual laziness, and weaken their study skills even more. MarkAntony 10 months ago .
That's expecting too much - they're too busy texting and twittering and playing games on Facebook to spend time doing school work. After all, they have to have their priorities and homework isn't one of them.
I think that's part of it...the destraction..and where are the parents keeping the pressure on to LEARN something. Take care,Mark MarkAntony 10 months ago .
Just think - these are the brain and heart surgeons of tomorrow. Would you want these people cutting you open?
Somebody'll find it for me...I don't to have LEARN anything. We don't do these kids a service when we make it much too easy for them...we do ourselves a dis-service for the exact reason you imply...THESE are the people that are going to be impacting our lives in the not-too-distant future. Take careMark MarkAntony 9 months ago .
Kids should do their own work however I have found that teachers fail to teach kids how to solve problems. They don't teach critical thinking or if they do it is PC critical thinking.
Oh...I agreesince I go to Rutgers, I can attest that there is a lot (though not as much as I would have thought...but DEFINITELY there) PC thinking... MarkAntony 9 months ago .
It's that old adage: Teach a man to fish ... you know how that goes.
EXACTLY. If we do it for them...there's NO reason for them to learn to do it for themselves...Take care,M MarkAntony 9 months ago .
I use to have teachers that would just throw the assignment up on the board and then He/She would return to their desk. No explaination of want it is that the teacher want us to do. Especially if it is something that the child has never seen before.
Daniel Paul Davis is right about that point about some teachers. Sometimes it is the teacher who will give an assignment with no explaination of what the student is suppose to do. And the student has no idea.
I can't speak for anyone else. But this has happened to me a lot throughout school. And I am not the only one this has happened to.
I remember one day I went to ask a teacher a question. And before I could finish my sentence she told me not to ask her anything. Then announced to the class not to bother her with any questions.
That was when I was in school. My sons also came across the same problem with some of their teachers. They would give them an assignment.
Then tell them to figure it outThe teacher gave them algebra to do. But the students had never seen it before.(Some places start teaching algebra in the fourth grade. Here where I live they do not)Here Algebra is not taught until the 8th grade.So my son and some other students had no idea where to start.
Sad to say but this happens a lot like DPD says. Not all teachers do this. But there are a few that slip through the system and tell the students not to approach and ask for help.
Thank goodness my son found one teacher who realized what was going on and helped him out. In my Opinion that is what a real teacher does. Help a student to understand the assignment.
I am not saying that they should not do their own homework. But what I am saying is there are teachers who will not explain the assignment to the student. So the students feel lost because the teacher did not help them understand.
And will not answer some questions that students have about the work. I have been there. Sometimes it is the teacher who is not helping these children learn about what to do.
Some are even telling the student to look it up on the computer. And that is why they are coming here for help. The teacher is not helping either.
Good stuff...Like I said, the teachers are also at fault, DPD is right. We, not just here, but in our daily lives...we can't give in to it. These kids need to know that this is NOT acceptable.
They've got to learn that it's a good thing to stretch yourself academically...but this system sure isn't doing that job...and they're lazy. MarkAntony 9 months ago .
Not all teacher are like that. But in my case and both of my sons. It was the teachers at the time.
And yes they should do their homework and not worry about the next computer game or text message.
Sadly though they do put their minds into the cell phone and nentindo game system.
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Please help me! I'm in major need of help for my algebra homework.
I was just looking at some of these kids requesting homework help. Obviously they have computer access,but.
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