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READ ME PLE-E-E-EEEASE! I wanna sleep, but I'll be wondering if you read this if you don't respond... I'm not going to take a side on the issue of or against gay marriage. I empathize entirely with both positions.

I would explain to you that those who support gay marriage do believe in it. Your estimation that it will fail is, based on the current path, wrong. It's not to say that something couldn't happen to change people's minds, but, with the current progression of things, it's only a matter of time until the majority of America supports gay marriage.

As to why they support gay marriage, the answer is rather simple. To understand it, you have to stop seeing marriage as the Church presents it. Yes, assuming the purpose of marriage to be procreation, there is reason gay marriage should be allowed.

And, yes, assuming the rights of civil marriage are meant to reflect that purpose of true marriage, even rights institutions such as civil unions would be wrong. I agree that the Catholic Church's position on all these issues is reasonable... given Catholic faith. You see, the fact remains that, from an empirical standpoint, A) there is no reason marriage cannot be allowed for couples not wanting to procreate and B) gay couples are just as capable of raising children as straight parents (i.e.

The child has no emotional, psychological, or physical defects from having those parents that are the result of having gay parents... obviously if the parents are bad parents it would change things, but the fact they are the same gender doesn't affect the child in itself). Now, I respect the Catholic Church, and understand their position that having same-sex parents is not natural. But the thing is... our society is focused on more practical goods.

We worry a lot about how others feel... trying to make them happy and such. Therefore, we tend to think of goods as what will help people, and evils as what will hurt them, instead of wondering whether the action, distinguished from its effects, is good or evil. In other words, our society follows a moral code completely different from Catholic Natural Law, though Catholicism has shaped it (I giggle every time someone mentions right and wrong being determined rationally, and presenting it as an argument against religion).

Under this moral code, marriage, which, being defined by law, appears as a man-made institution, should be changed because it helps gay people; it makes them happy. You see, to put it's cause in Catholic terms, it's about love (charity). Charity, is, as you know, the willing of good for another.

Happiness is a good. Now, in our society, it is deemed the highest good, because everyone can feel it - everyone agrees it is good. We are a secular society.

Therefore, it makes sense that a universally accepted good be held in highest esteem. It unites us. Even Catholics, who hold truth as the greatest good, would never discredit the goodness of happiness.

Gay couples are genuinely happy together. So, reasonably, if we are to love one another, if happiness is the highest good, we should want happiness for gay people, and, therefore, should want them to be allowed to marry. However, I agree that happiness is not the highest good, yet I do not oppose gay marriage.

"Why?" you may ask... Well, rationally, I agree with the Catholic Church 100%. However, I still can't bring myself to oppose it. Now, I'm not a sentimental person... I don't like acting out of feelings, and perhaps I'm just biased, being gay myself, but something deep inside myself prevents me from saying, in good conscience, that gay couples cannot marry.

Every time I do think about this, and every time I reach the conclusion that gay marriage is wrong, this video brings me back. I can't tell whether it's demons bringing the memory back to skew me off course, or if it's angels bringing me back, but, if it were the latter, I would be doing you a disservice not showing you this video. Now, I know it's sappy, but, I think, if you can empathize with this guy... you can understand why people support gay marriage.

If you watch it, watch it through. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyO... But, you see now, it's not just a matter of wanton desire. It is, deep down, charity-love.

As long as you understand that, I have no quarrel with you. However, by having the cause be a virtue, instead of a vice, it makes it all the more dangerous. People are drawn to virtues.

Because it's charity-love, I do not see it going away any time soon. However, I do appreciate the Catholic Church sticking true to its principals.

Once again you open yourself to mockery. Whomever the bureaucrats recorded on a person's Birth Certificate is not necessarily that person's Father. A Father is the man who raises and teaches his child.

One need not have a blood relationship in order to be a father. In fact, one does not need a father at all. Look at this man:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLnn96n3L... By contrast, how many deadbeat dads have run out on their kids and contributed exactly nothing to their childhood?

And how many monsters abused their kids while they were at their most vulnerable? What equality and acceptance are you talking about? The very fact that you feel free to come in here and preach your hatred at us and expect us to quietly accept the crumbs you offer means that you have no intention of ever offering true equality and acceptance.

Bullshit you mean no offense. You mean all the offense you can cause. I have a better idea: Why don't you leave your antiquated mythology out of our community, go away and stop pestering us with your lies and nonsense?

Marriage has been repeatedly changed throughout history. It is changing once more and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Try to contain your disappointment.

Edit: You preach intolerance and oppose equality. How is that anything but hatred? You don't get to define the results of your actions; it's up to your victims to do that.

And what we see from you is hatred, intolerance and homophobia. If you don't like having those labels applied to you, then it's up to you to stop being intolerant, hate-filled and homophobic. It's not rocket science, yet somehow you seem to be unable to understand this.

What you are doing is called "victim blaming". You are blaming me for getting offended at your hatred. This is not the act of a tolerant person.

Yours is not the cause of tolerance. If that were the case, you would not be in here trying to push your antiquated and oppressive agenda upon us. Now be so good as to perform sex and travel, but not in those exact words.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.

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