Pascal's wager:God may or may not exist. But if you believe in God and He exists, you win. If He doesn't, you don't lose?

Pascal's wager:God may or may not exist. But if you believe in God and He exists, you win. If He doesn't, you don't lose Blaise Pascal (1623-62) was a brilliant mathematician and scientist, and still retained his Catholic faith.

Pascal's position here is that it is rational and sensible to believe in God, even if one is only motivated by self-interest. If God exists, you gain eternal life, if God does not, you have lost nothing. One of several problems may be that you are psychologically unable to believe.

Pascal's response to this may have been that simply to attend Mass and have a Christian life may, eventually, cause you to believe. Supposing, however, that you are trapped in a miserable marriage and cannot obtain a divorce as you believe that God would disapprove. Then, in this instance, if God did not exist, you would be losing as a result of the wager.

When challenged by contemporaries, Pascal said that he felt that his wager was really making the best of a bad job, that some people would never be persuaded any other way, and that he was trying to save them from themselves. Asked by spikejones 33 months ago Similar questions: Pascal's wager God exist exists win lose Society > Religion & Spirituality.

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Them Frenchies is smart, they is. On the divorce issue, the person would lose, in your scenario, and the church would, of course be, as usual...wrong and therefore responsible for holding it's faulty tenants over the well being of its "true" believers. The whole debate over the existence of any deity is silly since the claimant must present evidence for the claim or it is, correctly, thrown out!

Remember that Pascal had a major issue with religion and went from an avowed atheist, most likely in an early response to his father, to a true believer toward the end, devoting his life to the very same impossible task we have mentioned. S sister became a nun probably due to the same reason as Pascal and their abusive, bible thumper, father. If we do the research on origins we can generally discover the reason for ideas, actions, beliefs and other misassumptions.

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There is no fear in Love! Get a divorce, you fear GOD’s disapproval? Sheesh There is NOTHING you can do to cause GOD to Love you more or less.

GOD is Love and when rejected, Love remains available to you and is willing to travel down any path to find you. ALL the work was done on the cross. IT IS FINISHED!

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1 Infinity has to be used very carefully in mathematics. It's not an entirely well-defined concept, and when you introduce arbitrary infinities into the equation, you get nonsense. They're equivalent to dividing by zero, and they give you the wrong result.

For comparison, see the proof that 1=0, like this:mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.false.proo... wager works only because he asserts that doing what God says will benefit you infinitely. Nothing justifies that assertion; he just takes it by definition. He points to a bible and say's that it's infinitely good.

I can make an identical proof by pointing to any book I like, or write my own in which you have to give me all of your money right now or I send you to hell forever after you die. In fact, my "hell" isn't just aleph-null suffering; it's aleph-eleven suffering, so when you compare the payouts, it's way, way bigger to send the money to me.(Aleph-null, aleph-one, etc. Are different kinds of infinity. All aleph-null infinites are identically big, but they're all smaller than aleph-one infinites.

My aleph goes to 11. )So Pascal's wager is basically just a fancy version of a schoolyard "I win infinity-plus-one" fight. He makes up the number for free, without proof.

The foregoing is NOT a proof of the non-existence of God. It is merely proof that Pascal got lazy in his old age.

Infinity has to be used very carefully in mathematics. It's not an entirely well-defined concept, and when you introduce arbitrary infinities into the equation, you get nonsense. They're equivalent to dividing by zero, and they give you the wrong result.

For comparison, see the proof that 1=0, like this:mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.false.proo... wager works only because he asserts that doing what God says will benefit you infinitely. Nothing justifies that assertion; he just takes it by definition. He points to a bible and say's that it's infinitely good.

I can make an identical proof by pointing to any book I like, or write my own in which you have to give me all of your money right now or I send you to hell forever after you die. In fact, my "hell" isn't just aleph-null suffering; it's aleph-eleven suffering, so when you compare the payouts, it's way, way bigger to send the money to me.(Aleph-null, aleph-one, etc. Are different kinds of infinity. All aleph-null infinites are identically big, but they're all smaller than aleph-one infinites.

My aleph goes to 11. )So Pascal's wager is basically just a fancy version of a schoolyard "I win infinity-plus-one" fight. He makes up the number for free, without proof.

The foregoing is NOT a proof of the non-existence of God. It is merely proof that Pascal got lazy in his old age.

2 Pam:I'm assuming you stopped at aleph-eleven for no particular reason. Please explain if my assumption is incorrect. This user has been banned from Askville.

2 Pam:I'm assuming you stopped at aleph-eleven for no particular reason. Please explain if my assumption is incorrect.

Pam:I'm assuming you stopped at aleph-eleven for no particular reason. Please explain if my assumption is incorrect.

Unixcorn replied to post #1: 3 WOW! I've never seen an aleph that went to eleven! Cool!

Have you ever lost a drummer to a freak Martin Gardnering accident? .

WOW! I've never seen an aleph that went to eleven! Cool!

Have you ever lost a drummer to a freak Martin Gardnering accident?

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I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.