Police Chiefs meeting with AG Eric Holder say new Ariz. law could increase crime. Is this possible?

Police Chiefs meeting with AG Eric Holder say new Ariz. Law could increase crime. Is this possible?"The chiefs told the attorney general that having to determine whether a person is in the United States illegally will break down the trust that police have built in communities and will divert law enforcement resources away from fighting crime.

""If that happens, "we will be unable to do our jobs," said Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck. "Laws like this will actually increase crime, not decrease crime.""The new law "puts Arizona law enforcement right in the middle" at a time when police budgets are already in crisis, said John Harris, president of the Arizona Association of Chiefs of Police. " Asked by NormanL 19 months ago Similar questions: Police Chiefs meeting AG Eric Holder Ariz law increase crime Politics & Law > Law.

Similar questions: Police Chiefs meeting AG Eric Holder Ariz law increase crime.

Some people's thinking is really not thinking. If you are here illegally then fix it otherwise go back and get another Visa quit wasting good money after bad. My great Grandparents came here from another country and they LEARNED to speak English no other nationality gets to press a number to speak a different language.

They worked the men served in wars to protect this country they loved and they became citizens. America LOVE it or LEAVE it. If you love it here become legal and learn to speak English just like other nationalities have.

Quit whining about it and do something other than break laws and have babies to collect welfare the system is broke! Just my opinion of course .

2 Saying that they MUST determine if the person is in the US illegally could well cause additional problems. But it seems to me that a somewhat weaker version of the law might work. What if they were given the option of hauling in people on the suspicion of being an illegal immigrant, but not requiring them to?

Unfortunately, it could still damage relations with the community, but that may simply be inevitable. When there is a significant fraction of the community there illegally, a lot of people find it intolerable. Which means we've got a lot of angry people on both sides, and the best solution would be a comprehensive one from the top down.

But when it does come, it's going to unsettle the communities the same way. And it's not effective to treat it as if it will never come. So it seems to me that the law as written is probably a bad idea, but that a less noxious version may help.

Saying that they MUST determine if the person is in the US illegally could well cause additional problems. But it seems to me that a somewhat weaker version of the law might work. What if they were given the option of hauling in people on the suspicion of being an illegal immigrant, but not requiring them to?

Unfortunately, it could still damage relations with the community, but that may simply be inevitable. When there is a significant fraction of the community there illegally, a lot of people find it intolerable. Which means we've got a lot of angry people on both sides, and the best solution would be a comprehensive one from the top down.

But when it does come, it's going to unsettle the communities the same way. And it's not effective to treat it as if it will never come. So it seems to me that the law as written is probably a bad idea, but that a less noxious version may help.

NormanL replied to post #2: 3 Maybe, the law as written was a knee jerk reaction to the problem. Maybe a well thought out law from the federal level down is what we really need. I can see problems with the law as written.

Maybe, the law as written was a knee jerk reaction to the problem. Maybe a well thought out law from the federal level down is what we really need. I can see problems with the law as written.

4 There is more than one study that says that cities with a higher immigration population have lower crime rates, so I suppose that if the immigrant population goes down, crime might go up. "What do the safest big cities in the United States have in common? The answer, in a word, is immigrants...A recent study showed that 75 percent of Americans think "more immigrants cause higher crime rates...The "Safest City" awards published a few days ago by Congressional Quarterly back up this kind of thinking."newsweek.com/id/72735"Nogales, Arizona shares the border with Nogales, Mexico but the Arizona town says it doesn't know what the anti-immigration crowd is talking about.

Assistant Police Chief Roy Bermudez says: "You can look at the crime stats. I think Nogales, Arizona, is one of the safest places to live in all of America.""Politicians, mainly, if not exclusively Republican, have made speeches about crime along the Arizona border. But Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, from Pima County, says: "This is a media-created event.

I hear politicians on TV saying the border has gotten worse. Well, the fact of the matter is that the border has never been more secure." In Cochise County the "crime rate has been 'flat for at least 10 years, the sheriff added.

""In Phoenix, police spokesman Trent Crump said, "Despite all the hype, in every single reportable crime category, we're significantly down. " Mr. Crump said Phoenix's most recent data for 2010 indicated still lower crime. For the first quarter of 2010, violent crime was down 17% overall in the city, while homicides were down 38% and robberies 27%, compared with the same period in 2009.

"http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2010/05/more-immigrants-less-crime.htmlUnfortunately, the sane voices like the police on the front lines, have been shouted down by the fright wing fear mongers. Oh well. We should be getting used to the Chicken Littles by now.

There is more than one study that says that cities with a higher immigration population have lower crime rates, so I suppose that if the immigrant population goes down, crime might go up. "What do the safest big cities in the United States have in common? The answer, in a word, is immigrants...A recent study showed that 75 percent of Americans think "more immigrants cause higher crime rates...The "Safest City" awards published a few days ago by Congressional Quarterly back up this kind of thinking."newsweek.com/id/72735"Nogales, Arizona shares the border with Nogales, Mexico but the Arizona town says it doesn't know what the anti-immigration crowd is talking about.

Assistant Police Chief Roy Bermudez says: "You can look at the crime stats. I think Nogales, Arizona, is one of the safest places to live in all of America.""Politicians, mainly, if not exclusively Republican, have made speeches about crime along the Arizona border. But Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, from Pima County, says: "This is a media-created event.

I hear politicians on TV saying the border has gotten worse. Well, the fact of the matter is that the border has never been more secure." In Cochise County the "crime rate has been 'flat for at least 10 years, the sheriff added.

""In Phoenix, police spokesman Trent Crump said, "Despite all the hype, in every single reportable crime category, we're significantly down. " Mr. Crump said Phoenix's most recent data for 2010 indicated still lower crime. For the first quarter of 2010, violent crime was down 17% overall in the city, while homicides were down 38% and robberies 27%, compared with the same period in 2009.

"http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2010/05/more-immigrants-less-crime.htmlUnfortunately, the sane voices like the police on the front lines, have been shouted down by the fright wing fear mongers. Oh well. We should be getting used to the Chicken Littles by now.

Janet Neapolitan and Eric Holder both admit to not reading the Arizona law. Yet they both say the law is wrong. What?

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.