Do you agree with France's idea to not ask the ethnicity / "race" question on the census?

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I am unable to find any news about this, so I can't speak much to the state of the census in France. In the US, however, there is a good reason to discontinue putting race on the census: the Current Population Survey can (and does) ask it. The CPS is statistical, and may well be more accurate than the actual counts because it can work around the systematic undercounts of minorities.

There may be a similar program in France, and you do need one. Systematic discrimination does still happen in both the US and France, and if you can't measure it you can't fight it. Systematic discrimination creates a permanent underclass of disadvantaged people based on race, which is unhealthy for the nation.

Now, you do need to be careful, because those statistical models have to be based on something. Last year's census was very short, but the inclusion of race gives you something to calibrate the CPS against. Without calibration, the statistics are worthless.

Opposition to race based questions based on the idea that laws need to be color-blind is misplaced. There IS systematic discrimination, and if you don't measure it and compensate for it in some way, it will only get worse. It takes great care to do so without being paternalistic, and it's subject to all sorts of unintended side effects.

But pretending that the problem doesn't exist, especially among those who benefit from it, is even more dangerous.

My opinion is that it's not particularly helpful to add precision there. The problem we're trying to combat is vague with respect to the particulars of race; people who won't hire you because your name is Shaniqua don't care if you're 10% black or 100% black or "one drop" black. Since we can't ask them whether they consider you black or not, the best proxy is whether you consider yourself black.It's rough, but the only thing that matters is tracking it over time: is it going up or going down?

Has it reached the point of being negligible? These are facts that drive policy decisions. And as long as we don't redefine the terms, we can make consistent judgments based on the relative values from year to year without much regard for the absolute value.

Brazil is a whole different issue, with a completely different approach to race than exists in the US. We need to construct our tools to solve our problems. And the French theirs.

The Civil Rights Act. Various affirmative action programs. Justice Department checks on discrimination.

No. We have a problem. Gher unemployment amongst black males and females and lower school quality in black neighborhoods.

We have to understand what is needed to raise the bar and unless we know its happening we can't address it.

To me the problem is by zip code. I can be impoverished, uneducated and unemployed regardless of my "race" / ethnicity. How many people of color would say the government has provided special assistance for them because of their "race" / ethnicity?

Even if the government provides reparations for past misdeeds -- is that a sustainable solution, especially as our communities become more mixed? Getgln 10 months ago .

When I say mixed I mean "multi-racial". Getgln 10 months ago .

When it is totally mixed we can revisit the question.

Yes. I really think even asking is more attention than the subject warrants. We won't stop thinking skin color means something is we're constantly reminded OTHERS think it's important.

What is the general view with perspective of social science.

When it is totally mixed we can revisit the question. Max20characters 57 months ago.

When it is totally mixed we can revisit the question. Max20characters 59 months ago.

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