Do you forsee John McDonnell MP, taking on Gordon Brown for leadership of the Labour Party this summer?

Australia did not elect Kevin Rudd, they elected the Labor Party. As with the Liberal Party, leadership is decided by the elected members and senators, not by the voters. This seems to be something people just don't understand.

When voting, you're voting for your local member, a State/Territory senator, and a party - not the leadership. Personally, I believe anyone who thinks they're voting for a particular leader, rather than the policies of a given party, is pretty stupid. Leaders come and go at the whim of the party, but it's the policies which make the party.

It is not just the Labor Party A HUGE question arises whether we are a Democracy or not, the controllers of our country exposed themselves in this case. That which the media presents and argues shapes public opinion and voting , such as the emphasis on a female PM , pushing the adulation, regardless of the seamy scummy facts, under the carpet, pretty smiles, we love you rah rah. Come in sucker Looking back we can now see a pattern Whitlam came to power thanks to the Media as it was becoming obvious Vietnam was a lost cause, there would be a major financial impact, there was , the war had to be paid for.

Libs were voted out , money had to be spent by the government. The problem was they encouraged and backed new startup enterprises which weren't whinging about being prevented from export or innovation by the unions. Not allowed, nor was decentralization allowed.

Once the dirty work was done get rid of them and enter the Libs with an unblemished financial record. Then when Global problems were looming again, the media put Labor back in, same story save the bacon , but at a cost. Then media put libs in with a clean record, note the pattern each time.

The media slant deposed the Libs this time, the problems behind the GFC were known , the maturation and timing were known, The Super Contribution match supposedly introduced to reward those who done it hard, as if they could put $1 Mill into their super, but the rich ones who hadn't done it hard could. But it provided a solid stable support for the stock market. Reality how many Billions to support the stock market of taxpayer money.

Rudd had the job to save our economy from what the Libs and media knew was coming. The Libs had no answers and knew decisive action and buckets of money would be needed to save the economy. They knew they couldn't do it, besides with more media manipulation the mugs will forget the reasons and once again label Labor as wastrels and Libs as good money managers.

The Money and Business powers in the Miners who rape and strip the land of its assets then leave a wasteland for profit, why think they treat the nation any different, it is the way they think. Negotiation, huh never, Palmer and Forrest said it, If Rudd tried to negotiate, 5-10 years of getting nowhere by which time super profits are gone as all those new mines all over the world, many fully or part owned by China start replacing our output, and the miners are starting to do it tough and wanting taxpayer handouts Like the gangsters and other crime groups setting an example, the prime minister was destroyed, the point was made. In future the politicians will ask How High?

When told to jump. PM included.. Of course the media is doing the big whitewash of theirs and the miners actions and the poor mugs will believe them. You can fool all of the people some of the time, some all the time, but you cant fool all the people all the time.

Is Democracy finished, the people and their votes meaningless.?

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.