Evolutionists, do you know your precious science just proved that God exists?

First of all, that term "evolutionist" is a huge red flag that you're woefully lacking in even understanding the basics of biology, let alone theology. Do you call one who accepts the modern knowledge of germ theory rather than the ancient ideation of curse as a cause of plague a "germist"? Secondly, attempting to "debate" the reality of a process that affects every living creature on the planet as long as life exists, is no different than trying to debate the idea that the earth and planets circle the sun and not vice versa (the heliocentric notion of the solar system was once seen as heresy by fundamentalist Christians, too) Also, bringing up God and evolution often ends up with debate or argument about cosmology as well as biology...or simply scientific method vs religion.

To those who claim that someone who does not see the Genesis account as a literal six day event as it is written in the Hebrew are somehow disrespecting that God is the creator or *must* be atheist: Think quickly, how would you describe things like how the internet works to a people who think that there is a dome of water beyond the stars in between that and the level of Heaven where the angels live? Even if Stephen Hawking himself told me about theories of astrophysics I couldn’t relate them back to you in an intelligible manner; it’s beyond my comprehension from my own limited prerequisite understanding and paradigm. God told them what they needed to know.

Written Torah is how they related that from their world view. Did God intend for us to be just given a poetic account? While I recognize that the planet and life on earth didn't appear POOF in six literal 24 hour solar days, I think that the story was believed as literal by the ancient Hebrews.

It tells us more about their self-concept in relation to the universe than it does about the actual processes God used to create. ( and still create ) We know now what we know. Their paradigm was different.

In a thousand years from now if we haven’t killed our species off, we will most likely appear as utterly ignorant of how the universe works to the people alive at that point in time. We can’t go back to thinking that the sun revolves around the earth, another thing in the Bible, and since we now know about evolutionary processesses, denial of that isn't useful, either. Biology does not support OR negate God.

I believe God created everything, including all of the processes at work in the universe. There is no objective physical evidence to counter evolutionary theory. It’s on firmer ground than gravitational theory.

Literally. I believe in God, that is my faith at work. I accept the reality of evolution.

Faith is not involved in that. You can't prove God exists and theological debates have no relevance to Biology. The time frame that the planet, solar system and stars took to form in “creation” is not any part of evolutionary theory.

Cosmology is not Biology. Intelligent Design, Creationism, whatever euphemisms they wish to name the Genesis story of creation in attempt to interject religious dogma into public schools under the guise of science, simply does not work as science. This is why it has failed and shall continue to fail in any court to be considered an “alternative” to a scientific theory.

Scientific Method is what determines if something is science or not. The theory of evolution is as true as germ theory, gravitational theory, and other theories of physics and math that enabled you to type your question here for display on the internet to people all over the world. I am a Registered Nurse.

The abysmal level of science literacy in this country is extremely disturbing to me. Ignorance CAN harm you when those who may not share your ethics use it in ways that may harm you or the environment. We have also made great strides in discovering the causes and getting treatments for diseases through application of evolutionary theory.

We would not even be concerned at all about a possible mutated bird flu pandemic if evolution did not happen. Please do not start the macro and micro evolution argument. Those terms only apply to time scale if used at all by biologists.

Enough *micro* changes over time and you end up with a population that cannot reproduce with the earlier form and then you have "macro"...a new species. Not all evolutionary changes lead to speciation. Most do not.

Evolution also does NOT imply direction or advancement of any form. Some changes are beneficial for survival potential, others are benign (most in fact) and some lead to disadvantages in survival potential and lead to "evolutionary dead ends". Evolution is a cornerstone to understanding modern biology and medicine.

It is imperative that anyone who plans to pursue any career in healthcare or biology understand a process that affects every living organism. As long as there is reproduction with exchange of genetic material, evolution happens. It doesn't require "believing in" but accepting the observed and tested reality.

There has been absolutely NO debate in scientific circles over the reality of evolution for more than 70 years. What IS debated in Biology are various means and methods and intricate details of the many processes at work IN evolution. Creationism and Intelligent Design are not science.

The ideas at work cannot be applied to scientific method. They are not falsifiable, they make no predictions. This is why it fails in court EVERY time as an "alternative" view in a science curriculum.

It is NOT science. Science is a method science is not an entity, nor scientific method a dogma to embrace in worship. Scientific method does not address God belief, so it atheistic (without deity belief) in that that it does not address any faith in any deity one way or another.

That is because we have no objective physical evidence to apply to the steps of scientific method to determine one way or another the reality of an Omnipotent Creator. Do we label any other area of study that simply omits or excludes religion as “atheism”? Often people will try to label scientific method as “atheist doctrine”..why don’t they call the study of English grammar “atheist doctrine“?

Until the time there is objective data to study regarding any deity, faith, belief, religion...are outside of scientific method. There is no belief, meaning faith, required for evolution to be accepted as real. Neither is it the case that evolution as a biologic theory, threatens or denies the existence of an Omnipotent Creator Deity.

Scientific method does not apply to this issue because we have no objective data to put to the method to determine one way or another. Evolution isn't a threat to belief in an Omnipotent Creator. It is a threat to the SELF-CONCEPT held by people who accept certain religious beliefs that formed a particular self-concept in their adherents of being a special creation set apart from all other life forms.

My faith in God is not threatened by scientific method. My faith teaches me to test what I know to make sure it is real. If there is an aspect of dogma that I accept and it becomes threatened by objective evidence, perhaps that is an aspect of belief that should be challenged.

Biology shows us that rather than life appearing on the planet *poof* in six literal days, as long as life exists, creation continues!

You can't, actually (and I'm not just saying that because I'm an atheist). From what I understand about how Christians view god, they beielive it's a supernatural entity that exists outside of reality itself. So, to offer difinitive proof for a god (let alone any specific one) is in itself, impossible.

Science, and by extension, the Scientific Method, only deal with things that exist within reality. And since it's believed that god(s) exist outside of reality, you can't gather data on it, because there is nothing to observe. You can't gather facts, because you have no data, and so on and so forth.

That's why religions are faith based and not fact based.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.

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