If Armenian genocide had really happened, would Germans not have been the real perpetrators?

If Germans had done it we would have known it. It is evident than none of the allied forces would have allowed it to be forgotten because Germany too was one of the losers of WW1 just like Ottomans. For some strange reason the allied forces wanted to forget this incident for 40 years (They agreed not to bring up this issue neither then nor in any time in future in Lausanne Treaty and they along with Armenians never mentioned this genocide allegations for 40 years!) instead of exploiting it all the time despite being the winners of the WW1.

We should rather focus on why they downplayed this for 40 years instead of accusing irrelevant nations by directing our indignation to every single misinformed person EDIT: Neither, Ottomans nor Armenians nor Turks who personally witnessed these incidents mention anything about Germans. This is a far-fetched allegation. Germans were commanding Turkish troops in Ottoman Empire not German troops and what you're saying here is that Turks together with Germans are the perpetrators of this genocide EDIT: What is so important about Germans being mastermind of the these events whatever you call them if they used Turks to accomplish it?

I strongly suggest Murat Bardakç? And you to read what really happened from the link below http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;… Sumarry Neither Germans and Ottomans had any involvement in those incidents happened between 1914-1915 It is American Evangelists backed by US government, Britain (which both financed and organized the ultranationalist Armenians living in Ottoman Empire), Russian Empire (which gave military support to Orthodox Armenians by supplying weapons and backing them with Russian troops), ultranationalist Armenians living in Ottoman Empire and Orthodox Armenians living in Russia who are responsible those massacres lived in Souteast and East Anatolia between 1914 and1915. Orthodox Armenians together with ultranationalist Armenians backed by Russian troops killed hundreds of thousands of Turks, Kurds, Arabs, Grigorian Armenians (who are very loyal to Ottoman Empire and who hate both Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) and possibly the Catholic Armenias (who have become Catholics with the efforts of French Catholic missionaries) living in Ottoman Empire (as Britain was seeing a religious group within the influence circle of its main rival France as a threat to its regional interests) The unaswerable questions for the genocide claims Why is it that the Ottoman officials who are allegedly responsible from genocide are acquited by the British tribunal held in Malta in 1921 without even being able to make a court case against them?

Why is it that British officials always mention lacking of evidence for the alleged genocide in their official documents and coresspondence which are available today despite they had access to both US and Ottoman archies. Take a look at the link below http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/malta-de… Do they want us believe that Ottomans massacred 1,5 million Armenians without leaving even a single evidence behind? Why is that during negotiations of Lausanne Treaty (signed in 24 July, 1923) all the countries signed the treaty (Britain, France, Italy, Japan, Bulgaria, Romania, Greece Portugal, Belgium USSR, Yugoslavia) agreed not to bring up the issue of Armenian genocide and not to demand any kind of reparations from Turkey neither then nor in anytime in future?

Ottoman Empire was the loser of WW1 and Britain and France were the winners of WW1. Had Ottoman Empire really committed this alleged genocide they would have kept every single option to exploit this. Since when losers of a war can dictate their own terms on the matters they're guilty of to winners of the war they lost?

So, although, as a Turk, I do not believe it was a genocide, but even if it was, the mastermind behind it was not a deteriorating Ottoman rule, but Germans who were really in control of the Ottoman Army. " If my dog had killed your cat, it would be the turtle's fault, wouldn't it?... Sure, it does make sense.

Gosh... I really hope we manage to keep you guys away from the EU for as long as I live. "I do not believe it was a genocide" .... how incredibly f'ing clueless can you be. EDIT: Hm, tender subject apparantly.

Two turkish nazis felt the need to sent some offensive messages, anonymously of course.

Interesting question did an event happen and if it is called something else does that mean that someone else did it. Could have been the Austrian or the Hungarians. What were all the turks doing at the time.?

Ottoman empire had plans of its own. Why is there Armenian churches and gravestones in turkey?

If I was in german place I was going to massacre all of the turks.

Oh, for Heaven's sake. Look, let's start by acknowledging that just about every country in the world has some dark and humiliatingly dirty deeds in its past, and that any country with a history of colonialism probably has more than its fair share. What singles you lot out in this case, and makes you appear far worse in the eyes of everyone else is your own persistent denial.

The Amritsar Massacre is a truly appalling episode in the history of British colonialism, from about the same period, but no-one here is trying to pretend that it didn't happen, or is making excuses worthy only of small children in the playground ('A big boy did it, then ran away! '). Face up to the facts of your own history.

Well, I'm Armenian and I stopped reading the question after I saw the phrase "I do not believe it was a genocide" and I want to say dump your primitive a$$ you know nothing and your own "history"... consequently it's pointless to read ahead your question. But instead I read all answers given to your question and I want to add some more things Alper Tunga K - apparently you are the smartest Turk I have ever seen or heard about, Thanks for opening some of these guys eyes they are blinded by their fake history book and don't want to see what happened in reality... and seriously you can't blame all of them people learn what they hear... it's the same as would you believe your Mom or a stranger? Of course your Mom in this case of course Turks have to believe to their history book which denies Armenian Genocide and the most funny part it says that it happened right contrary... Armenians have massacred Turks... ok let me tell you something.

I live in CA,LA,Hollywood once I was driving down on the Sunset street to home and I noticed that I'm running out of cigarette, I stepped by Sunset's 7eleven to buy one, I got in I asked for a cigarette the salesperson was an elder lady, she looked at me and asked are you Armenian? I said yes and you? She said and I'm a human, I said yes I see you are but I meant what's your nationality?

She said Turk and I got a little bit angry she smiled to my face and said I know that Armenian Genocide had happened(because she knew I would ask that question) I'm really sorry for that, then her co-worker came to shift, she signed out and we both walked out of Seven11 we talked pretty long, we were talking in Armenian she was as fluent in Armenian as me, and at the end of our conversation she told me how she helped to survive an Armenian family(daughter dad and mom) she helped them to run off from their home's window to survive and told me that very in detail how Genocide happened where it got started from and how that was going on... I liked her attitude she was an amazing person it was late for her she had to leave and she left, once I went back to buy a cigarette and that was a reason to see her I went but she wasn't there, the other salesperson told me she moved to another 7Eleven they changed her workplace I asked the guy for a address he didn't tell me he said it's personal information I can't provide you that bla bla bla... @asker - I have to disappoint you man but JADE is seriously Turkish girl... I have read many many answers of her and she writes in Turkish and actively answers to question in Turkey section... she is Turkish for sure there is no doubt about that, you can check her previous answers and you will see. @JADE - as always hun, you are the most idiot and stupidest Turk I have ever seen you are such a silly narrow-minded lol, If I had a chance I would officially recognize you as "dumb as fck Turkish home stuck up chick ever" do you have life? I mean do you go out or all day along you are frozen on the computer searching the people you hate most and start talking BS?

Girl get a life... you don't make sense you sound like a retarded and you are(for sure)... instead of living in PC take care of something more important such as Living, no I mean really Living... this word has different definition from how you define... you low class no life home stuck up Turkish mentally ill failure you shouldn't even been born If I knew your mom was pregnant with you I would give her that money..... there is no reason nor point she gave your birth you don't even need you you are just ordinary kid with no life. I have read many many answers of yours, and I didn't seen SINGLE wise answer which is based on some facts or at least has logical approach... whatever you say that's whatever you want to say. @JADE - you see?

You are such a failure:( the asker gets offended to know you are a Turkish and you guys actually both are Turkish... your life must be sad even your own people don't want to recognize you as a Turkish. @asker - Yes I have read some of your edits but not all of them I read them to have a global idea what's going on in this page, how about JADE no man seriously she is Turkish... just find some of her answers in Turkey section or traveling/Turkey section she has some Turkish friends etc sometime she translates phrases from English to Turkish and visa versa I know it's painful to see such a Turkish girl but that's the truth she is Turkish honestly. I'm wondering... did you read my answer?

These things happened . Subjects of the Ottoman Empire , directed by Ottoman officialdom , did them . No good blaming the Germans now .

As I asked before , WHY are the Turks of today so uneasy about atrocities committed in a period of terrible worldwide turmoil 90 to120 years ago? Move on .

Just think if you were not in denial of this historical fact you would not be trying to shift the blame without a shred of evidence to show for it, exposing a futile attempt to protect the real perpetrators... "German officials in Turkey objected to the Armenian genocide and German involvement in it. Consular field representatives sent frantic reports detailing the ongoing slaughter of the Armenians to the German main office in Istanbul. The information, upon which the field representatives pleaded for action, was either suppressed or ignored.

Those German officials who attempted to intervene actively on behalf of the Armenians encountered reprimands from their superiors. " In a position of superior power, Germany made a conscious decision to support the genocidal program of its weaker ally. Germany was not a perpetrator, but it remains far removed from the position of bystander."

Meredith ndley American University Let the record show.. The House resolution cites the joint declaration by the allies in 1915 (although the resolution incorrectly refers to the date of that declaration as May 24, rather than May 23, 1915), referring to the “crimes of Turkey against humanity and civilization. ” The resolution also notes historical facts long established That the post-World War I Turkish government indicted and executed leaders involved in the organization and execution of the genocide. That the chief organizers of the genocide, Minister of War Enver, Minister of the Interior Talaat, and Minister of the Navy Jemal were all condemned to death for their crimes, although the verdicts were not carried out.

That the genocide and Turkey’s judicial failures are documented with overwhelming evidence in the national archives of Austria, France, Germany, Great Britain, Russia, the United States, the Vatican and many other countries, including those at the United States National Archives and Record Administration (especially in its holdings under Record Group 59 of the United States Department of State, files 867.00 and 867.40, which are open and widely available to the public and interested institutions. That Henry Morgenthau, U.S. Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire from 1913 to 1916, explicitly described to the United States Department of State the policy of the Government of the Ottoman Empire as “a campaign of race extermination,” while a U..S. Senate Resolution on Feb.9, 1916, resolved that “the President of the United States be respectfully asked to designate a day on which the citizens of this country may give expression to their sympathy by contributing funds now being raised for the relief of the Armenians.”

In addition, Senate Resolution 359, dated May 11, 1920, stated in part that evidence “clearly established the truth of the reported massacres and other atrocities from which the Armenian people have suffered. ” Testimony heard in the Senate included evidence of “mutilation, violation, torture, and death which have left their haunting memories in a hundred beautiful Armenian valleys, and the traveler in that region is seldom free from the evidence of this most colossal crime of all the ages. ” Case closed...

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.