Can a true born again spirit filled christian ever lose their salvation?

For many Biblical reasons, The scriptural position is that a person who is saved can forfeit that salvation. The bible teaches those at highest risk of forfeiting their salvation are those who are newly saved, and those who continue on in known disobedience, after being born again. The elect are those whom God chose, whom God foresaw would both trust in His Son AND who would endure or persevere in the faith given them until the end of their physical life, or the return of Jesus.

Those whose hearts are seeking the Lord with all that is in them, should have no concern about "losing" their salvation. Nor should they have any concern about forfeiting their salvation. Salvation cannot be lost, but it can be forfeited - this is the nature of covenants in the bible.

The bible no where guarantee's someone that salvation once received cannot be turned away from or forfeited by the individual that possesses it. Receiving salvation involves man's will, and not works. Forfeiting salvation involves man's will, and not works.

In the same way the Lord did not force His salvation on anyone, He neither forces anyone to remain in the covenant. Hebrews 6:4-6, 4 "For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good scripture and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame. Comments: This is one of the classic proof texts for forfeiting one's salvation.

Most Calvinistic theologians have made this passage fit into their theology by claiming that the passage does not refer to believers. There are, however, some significant problems with attempting to do this. First, the text clearly says, "it is impossible to renew them again to repentance", the "them" referring to those who "have fallen away".

If the Calvinistic theologians interpretation is correct, then the text says that it is impossible for those who never actually became believers (repented, believed and thereby received the Holy Spirit), to repent and become believers. This seems to be inconsistent with God's mercy (2 Pet. 3:9; Matt.

11:28). It also seems to contradict the entire 18th chapter of Ezekiel, particularly verses 21-23. In addition, Jesus is clearly the object of the "elementary teachings" (verses 5:11 & 6:1), so saying that this passage refers to unbelieving Jews really stretches the concept of consistent interpretation.

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I'm saved...today. Today is all I have, all I need. I don't expect to completely change by tomorrow morning without the intervention of the Holy Spirit.

I will not accept 'friends' who are against Christ, or who find it amusing the joke about the bible, thus I am not around bad 'influence'. 5x (one person counted this!), Jesus said 'beware', ...beware of false prophets, beware of men, ....be wary, and Jesus said 'watch' or 'watch out'! I have taken Jesus' words seriously from the start because ....it struck a chord?

Jesus said 'My SHEEP hear my voice....and they will follow NO other'. So, I think this is your anwer here. So, what do we focus on?

Not focus on? I focus on hearing His Voice, and not focus on ANYTHING or anyone else. I would put focus as almost #1 if not #1.

I cant really gove you an answer,but what I can give you is a way to a solution, that is you have to find the anglde that you relate to or peaks your interest. A good paper is one that people get drawn into because it reaches them ln some way.As for me WW11 to me, I think of the holocaust and the effect it had on the survivors, their families and those who stood by and did nothing until it was too late.