Now that it's outta there, what now?

Since the Republicans have been preaching For months now that the health care Industry need to be fixed, and not a big Government take over. The President came close to saying the same thing yesterday. He said that they needed to save the things that are now in this health Care Bill that all can agree on, and toss the rest.

Then I would assume they would start over with what they have and add to that to fix the system, not make a new one at a cost of 12 Trillion dollars. Since they are probably now going to try to fix the system it should cost a lot less. There should also be no cuts in Medicare.

This time it will be both Republicans and democrats together working on the bill, with out closed doors and pay offs. This time Obama's promise should be correct, in a open working environment. Also as the President said, the people have spoken, they want a better economy and jobs, then health Care.

We will have to see what Congress works on first. All of America is watching. After Tuesday Democrats that are up for election in November are shaking in there boots right now.

None of them are willing to go against the people as they were before Tuesdays election. Nancy Pelosi today said that she no longer has the votes for health Care and the Polloi bills are dead in the state that they are now written. A new way of doing business in Washington now begins, one that the Democrats did not want.

This is why there was such a rush to get health Care passed before Christmas. No one predicted that Ted Kennedy's seat that has been held by Democrats since 1972 in a Democratic State that only has 12 registered Republicans in it, would ever put a Republican in Ted Kennedy's seat. It shows as Obama said, the people in this Country are mad.

They do not like the way the Government is going. They want a smaller Government and lower spending. The majority of people are happy with there health Care that they now have, everyone admits that there are things that need to be fixed.

Working together they have a chance to do that now. They do not want lop sided politics, and they are not going to stand for it.

1 People don't have money to pay more for health care and not get any better treatment and worse rules that may hurt them. Deal with the economy. There is too much corruption in the bill...until the corruption is cleaned up a new bill may go the same way...to big business at the expense of the people.

People don't have money to pay more for health care and not get any better treatment and worse rules that may hurt them. Deal with the economy. There is too much corruption in the bill...until the corruption is cleaned up a new bill may go the same way...to big business at the expense of the people.

2 There's still pretty widespread belief that something should be done about the fundamental problem, that health care is too expensive and that it's getting expensiver fast. In other words, people still want something done. The question as to how they can do it, though...The President just launched a campaign about financial reform, which had been the plan for the second-year agenda all along.

Congress being composed of many committees, they can dispatch somebody else to do health care. (Though it won't go through Max Baucus' financial committee this time. Arguably, they shouldn't have in the first place, though it is in their purview.It got a fair bit of attention for being the most bipartisan of the efforts, for all the good it did them.

)I don't see that "doing nothing" is any kind of a solution. There's nothing blessed about the current situation. Like the health care bill, the current situation is the result of the sausage factory, except running for decades rather than a couple of years.

It's expensive, it leaves a lot of people open to having their health care dropped at the insurance company's whim, and it produces mediocre results for everything except cancer. (Americans focus on cancer, something they can try to cure with pills, rather than heart disease, something they can cure with exercise and diet. We have the best cancer outcomes in the world.

Everything else is middling. )The worst excesses of the bribes will be reduced by seeking a more bipartisan solution. The bribes got in there because they were trying to push through a bill all on one side, which meant the last few people to vote yes had all of the power.

I don't think those bribes were nearly as bad as they were made out to be. Not exactly fair, but just part of every bit of legislation, by both parties, for decades, and I found it disingenuous to focus on them. But then, I've found Republicans to be disingenuous at every stage of this process.Well... maybe it'll be different this time.

I would much rather they find some kind of bill that gets 80 votes, even if it achieves less than one that does more with only 60. We'll see if that happens, but I'm not hopeful. We'll see if financial reform is any more popular.

Currently, the polls say it is: people hate bankers. But I'm sure that once they've had a good coat of polish people will find it outrageous that they should have any limits placed on them, either.

There's still pretty widespread belief that something should be done about the fundamental problem, that health care is too expensive and that it's getting expensiver fast. In other words, people still want something done. The question as to how they can do it, though...The President just launched a campaign about financial reform, which had been the plan for the second-year agenda all along.

Congress being composed of many committees, they can dispatch somebody else to do health care. (Though it won't go through Max Baucus' financial committee this time. Arguably, they shouldn't have in the first place, though it is in their purview.It got a fair bit of attention for being the most bipartisan of the efforts, for all the good it did them.

)I don't see that "doing nothing" is any kind of a solution. There's nothing blessed about the current situation. Like the health care bill, the current situation is the result of the sausage factory, except running for decades rather than a couple of years.

It's expensive, it leaves a lot of people open to having their health care dropped at the insurance company's whim, and it produces mediocre results for everything except cancer. (Americans focus on cancer, something they can try to cure with pills, rather than heart disease, something they can cure with exercise and diet. We have the best cancer outcomes in the world.

Everything else is middling. )The worst excesses of the bribes will be reduced by seeking a more bipartisan solution. The bribes got in there because they were trying to push through a bill all on one side, which meant the last few people to vote yes had all of the power.

I don't think those bribes were nearly as bad as they were made out to be. Not exactly fair, but just part of every bit of legislation, by both parties, for decades, and I found it disingenuous to focus on them. But then, I've found Republicans to be disingenuous at every stage of this process.Well... maybe it'll be different this time.

I would much rather they find some kind of bill that gets 80 votes, even if it achieves less than one that does more with only 60. We'll see if that happens, but I'm not hopeful. We'll see if financial reform is any more popular.

Currently, the polls say it is: people hate bankers. But I'm sure that once they've had a good coat of polish people will find it outrageous that they should have any limits placed on them, either.

3 I think Obama would be wise to put aside health care for the moment and pick on an enemy that all Americans hate -- the BANKS! Nothing will make his poll numbers soar higher than taking a populist position that the nation can rally behind.

I think Obama would be wise to put aside health care for the moment and pick on an enemy that all Americans hate -- the BANKS! Nothing will make his poll numbers soar higher than taking a populist position that the nation can rally behind.

LouLou replied to post #3: 4 not everyone hates the banks. They should hate Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. To this day they still have not been blamed for anything.

Free money for people that could have never afforded to buy a house and should have stayed in apartments saving for their first home.

Not everyone hates the banks. They should hate Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. To this day they still have not been blamed for anything.

Free money for people that could have never afforded to buy a house and should have stayed in apartments saving for their first home.

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My last felony conviction was in 2002 I did my time and have stayed outta trouble how do I restore my rights.

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